@BertramDitore @Hegar
Running water and indoor plumbing was relatively common in the ancient world.

really ?
In 1920, only *** 1% of US homes** had indoor plumbing

https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2004/data/papers/SS04_Panel1_Paper17.pdf

@teft

even if this were true, it is true only if you have time rest and rejuvenate, and in particular rest after an injury

tht option often not available to people working at lower wage jobs

right ?

@SteveKLord

1
yeah, I lie about my age

2
re the 1,000x
if you read the comments in the thread you posted, several people point out this is just ludicrouis

so I"m not quite sure what I should have said to you when you post something that is absurd
seriously, what am I to say ?

@SteveKLord
I was born in 1953 and my image of people doing labor like this , based on how we perceived people in low income countries, is of a person whose body was worn out by age 30

to a large extent progress is humans not having to do heavy manual labor
sheesh

@MicroWave

this is probably not true

eg, read the best thing, IMO, written on 2016, then think about how often liberals talk about trump's plan to cut taxes on working people [ "plan" of course being BS ]

don't wanna read the link ?
Tl;dr
Trump supporters didn't pay attn to the crazy stuff; they just hear him say: When I am POTUS there will be jobs
thats it, thats the mesagge

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/12/6/13853314/trump-speeches-lessons-democrats-economics-trade

@stabby_cicada

I distrust toots that assert something without providing a link
I was lucky and found a link to the 31K figure; sounds partially like it does NOT apply to all homeless people, just some small percentage, so probably a bullshit number

https://homelessvoice.org/the-cost-to-criminalize-homelessness/

@benfulton @bloomington_in

If YIMBYs are in favor of turning parks into asphalt, then YIMBYs are bad

but terms and conditions apply; what I said is certainly true for NYC or Chicago, maybe not Bloomington

but in general the willingness of YIMBYs to pave over grass is IMO really bad IMO

@pluralistic@mamot.fr @bazkie@mstdn.social

Eugene Debs:
Even if I could lead people into paradise, I would not, because if I could lead them in, someone else could lead them out

@holycrap

It is quite possible that my memory is from the slashdot era of comments like

"I put Linux on my laptop and then the wireless didn't work and it took me 3 hours on the help forum . ."