The 1957 interview shown throughout, the particular segment shown around the 45 minute mark:

INTERVIEWER: Do you believe that the United States should recognize Red China?

HAWKINS: Personally, I think they should.

INTERVIEWER: Why?

HAWKINS: It's a very big thing [...] it's like saying that there's a big elephant in front of you and you say he's not there, until he becomes powerful enough to step on you.

INTERVIEWER: Do you expect that they will become powerful enough to step on us?

HAWKINS: I have no doubt of that.