Haha sorry, hope I didn't come off as angry at you. It's just people like that make me angry and then I spout off. That was more to vent and I guess for other people who may agree with her.
Even I agree with that. And I was one of those annoying guys screaming ACAB and shit. I really wish that didn't end up becoming the main slogan, because I really agree with the idea behind it. It's like if pro-choice people were framing their own position as pro-killing babies on their signs and stuff.
That's what defund the police is about. It's about shifting the funding to other sources, social workers and such, that can handle calls like these. It relieves police of having to deal with stuff like this, too.
That war was started because Britain betrayed the promise to the Palestinians and gave their land that they already lived on to another state without any of their input.
Gaza doesn't let them do anything. Hamas won an election once and there hasn't been another one since. And the same thing can be said about Israel. They actually have elections and they choose to elect people that prolong the cycle of violence through constant land grabs, apartheid policies, and occupation.
Nothing justifies it, but if you want to know why it happened you're going to have to look before October 7th. Decades and decades before it even. And you'll have to be honest about all the things Israel has done, all the people they've killed (way more than 1,000 btw), and all the land they've taken. And that they continued to do so recently, even before October 7th.
Ya know, if I had to hide in shelters from rocket attacks almost everyday, witnessing a stabbing that happened right next to a date I was having, etc, I'd probably be pretty fucking jaded as well.
That's hilariously quaint next to life as a Palestinian. Hell, a stabbing? That's quaint next to life in the hood of the USA. Maybe ask her to consider the Palestinian perspective next. They lost their land and haven't been able to return. 78% of their water is bad. They can't control their borders, imports, or exports. They can be held for months without trial or charge. The noise is so bad from the buzz of drones they can't sleep. Israel restricts their calories to the bare minimum (calls it "putting them on a diet"). They raid their areas occasionally to kill some people and take more prisoners (call it "mowing the grass"). They bomb their hospitals, apartment buildings, refugee camps, and other civilian infrastructure. They get their trees and agriculture pulled by Israeli settlers who get defended by troops. Unemployment is rampant. Israel controls their electricity, which doesn't work multiple times a day, their trash, and all other parts of their infrastructure. All they have is unguided rockets that occasionally kill their own, while Israel has a state of the art rocket defense system that prevents almost all of their deaths, jets, bombs, helicopters, and always the latest in military gear and tech. The Palestinians are maimed en masse during peaceful protests like the Great March of Return. The list goes on and on.
The Nazi comparison is right. Imagine some Nazi saying they're thankful the government is moving the Jews away from them by putting them on these trains. It's more of a buffer zone from the scary Jewish ghettos. They bring up the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, and how they saw people die from the scary Jews.
That's basically what she was saying. There's no concern for the citizens at all, and no realization that the "scary" situation is completely of their own making due to their own occupation and blockade of civilians, who will then rightly get angrier and angrier as time passes without a solution allowing their own sovereignty.
Israel had been killing people, occupying territory, and illegally expanding settlements since long before fore Hamas was a thing. If they didn't want Hamas to exist next to them, they shouldn't have been doing all that stuff before.
It's like a different world. They have different slang, music tastes, different types of friend and school drama, physical energy levels, at a different stage of their life, etc. I agree, what do you even talk about?
I was making a joke about right-wingers calling every slightly social, pro-labor, feminist, or anti-racist policy (basically anything that isn't taxes for the rich) "communist".
You realize they've been sanctioned to shit for decades by the US, right? That makes them extremely vulnerable to price changes to oil, their basically only economic export. They probably should be diversifying more, though.
From what I can tell, conspiracy (against the government), inciting violent protests, and corruption. It's weird they don't say it in the article. But she says the protests were supposed to be peaceful and some of the conspiracy evidence was faked, which it might be, idk, I wasn't in the court room.
But considering the US is still doing shit like this, I could see why they have to be paranoid.
Haha sorry, hope I didn't come off as angry at you. It's just people like that make me angry and then I spout off. That was more to vent and I guess for other people who may agree with her.