RideAgainstTheLizard @ RideAgainstTheLizard @slrpnk.net

Sustainability and decentralised social media enthusiast 🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

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When I post here I get replies. On mastodon I don’t.

Good point :)

You're rude

That's fair. Say you were setting up a server and you planned to migrate users to it, and it was going to be their first experience of the fediverse, do you think this is something you'd feel obligated to tell them about?

Sorry I forgot to address your point - migrating people to a more technical setup would be a challenge in itself, but then informing them that deletion across servers isn't guaranteed would likely give them cold feet.

I'd hazard a guess that ActivityPub users are a small portion of the population, especially considering the people I'm thinking of setting a server up for are Facebook users in a medium sized town - mostly people over the age of 40 who only started using social media in the past ten years.

It's no secret that onboarding is a barrier to entry for Mastodon for example, and even then most people likely haven't even heard of it. I am the only person on any of my social circles who is aware of it.

I think it's fair to say that we can all end up regretting some of the stuff we've put online months or years after the fact.

For example, it means ActivityPub is definitely not an appealing place for young people to have their first cringe moments online.

The risk of being cancelled is higher, and I think everyone has the right to regret their past self and try to clean it up if they want to.

The fact that the delete button can only guarantee deletion on your own server is not robust considering one of the primary appeals of the fediverse is that servers can communicate with each other. It means unease/distrust is built in from square one.

Update: So far many of the responses point out that if you post anywhere on the internet you are prone to this issue, i.e. even if you delete something someone may have copied it etc.

I do believe this is different. Yes, we are always at risk from malicious actors, but usually when using social media we can operate under the assumption that the delete button works. That is not the case for ActivityPub. Even without bad actors, your content may not be deleted. I think it's safe to say that this is an unappealing issue for most potential users.

I've happily found that there is much more interaction here than on Mastodon :)

Big time

As long as they're reducing their meat intake that's ok with me :) I say that as a non-vegan who has greatly reduced my meat intake

I sheath my sword in shame

I'm not sure how we got here, but when discussing EVs this criticism always comes up, and forgive me if I'm making an incorrect assumption about you but it's almost always from someone living in a North American city. Your points are valid in the context of your own area, but the world is a lot bigger and there are so many regions that have developed to require cars that cannot be switched to primarily public transport. Public transport can link small towns to each other for example, but they cannot bring every single inhabitant to and from their own address, and not everyone is able to just get out and walk instead.

The simple truth is that electric vehicles are better than vehicles that run on fossil fuels, and that is a valid and sensible opinion to have. Yes we should also have more public transport and walkable areas, but that is not a valid point against the introduction and distribution of EVs.

I don't think you're saying much

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Agreed

Yes you're right, people are not smart and will lose track of the greater picture if we distract them. Forgive me.