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  • Those do actually go down.

    That's the point I'm making: when those examples go down unplanned, in particular hospitals and the power grid, in particular the examples you gave, those can be catastrophic events. I.e., if we ignore planned downtime, then these businesses really need five lines of reliability during the times they are expected to be up.

    I agree with the overall point that the average business doesn't need five nines of availability, but I wanted to point out that there are definitely businesses that do.

  • Good point, but that's planned downtime.

  • Desperately hope these officers end up using them only on themselves and each other

  • Your business will not collapse because of 10 min of downtime a week, and if it does that is not technologies fault.

    Hospitals? Air traffic control? Power grid operators? Like these are exceptional businesses, but they're out there.

  • While systems and institutions have an extremely strong effect on society, projecting the perceived net-effect of an institution onto the intent of every individual participating in that institution is absurd, and your implied true version alignment isn't any better.

    I don't have to project anything onto anyone. Cops and their "unions" speak their intentions all the time, and it's always vile.

    I urge you to step back from tribalism and ideology and view people as individuals, even if you find their flaws glaring acknowledge they have their own deeply complex lives.

    I'm not being tribalist, e.g. I acknowledge the possibility that individual police officers can do decent things outside their police jobs, and even that police officers can change for the better (by quitting their jobs and working to undo the harm they've done). I'm being, openly and assertively, collectivist in my analysis of police. Policing is a collective institution. It's not just a bunch of shitty individuals running around being assholes (although it certainly includes a lot of that.) It's their net effect, their superadditivity in the space of "doing the legwork for the bourgeoisie", that makes collective analysis work here.

    What's the point in generating conflict and driving people away?

    Safety. Police are dangerous individuals and need to be deradicalized before being allowed in safe spaces.

    Will starting fights with cops help you make the world a better place?

    Yes unironically, we need to fight them like they are an occupying military, because that's what they are.

    On a practical level, what good does it do to conjure opposing ideological specters?

    It's not just ideological, as cops are mostly too ignorant to internalize a complete ideology. If by "ideological spectres" you mean "lines in the sand", then yeah I actually do think it sometimes helps to draw lines in the sand, in particular to separate ourselves from dangerous people, like police.

    Surely it's better to work together where you can and steer clear where you can't?

    We literally cannot work together with police on a single issue. We are diametrically opposed. And even if ideologically we found common ground (which we won't, but just for the sake of argument), police are dangerous to be around.

    Perhaps there are instances where it's appropriate to demonize someone for a specific action they've taken,

    For example, joining a policing organization

    but do it consciously as targeted tactic to remove especially egregious and obvious threats, never as blanket ideology.

    That's what we're doing, but you reject our perspective for some reason.


    Please, I beg you, read at least the first few chapters of Our Enemies in Blue by Kristian Williams when you get the chance. Policing is such a vile institution and I seriously doubt you would be writing like this if you understood its history.

  • Yeah I'm a real nutjob for calmly explaining to you why you shouldn't do an ecofascism. I'm the nutjob 🫩

  • I guess there are pro slavery "people" in the US...

    Actually yes, there are an astonishing number of

    settlers who are unironically pro-chattel-slavery, particularly descendants of slaveowners in the South.

    To be only slightly charitable to my family, they don't support chattel slavery to the best of my knowledge. (Not because they are good people, i.e. they are definitely gullible and racist enough to be convinced to support it.) To be less charitable...they do support other forms of slavery, in particular prison slavery, and they generally oppose anti-racism and anti-fascism if it might require them to change their behavior.

  • 90% of my family is people John Brown would've shot (that's an indictment of my family, not John Brown!), so any argument ends up becoming that 🫩

  • It's cathartic beyond measure 🫩

  • Neither are monolithic groups

    Cops are universally, by means of their position as enforcers of the bourgeois social order, monsters, hence why ACAB stands for "all cops are bastards". There literally is no good cop. They are an evil monolith. Obviously anarchists are against the bourgeois social order. Of course there are monsters who identify as anarchists, but these are people in conflict with the anarchist project. By contrast, monsters within the police are aligned with the intended monstrousness of their system.

  • Good kitty

  • I read Civil Disobedience by Thoreau in I think third or fourth grade? (Yes I was that much of a nerd in third or fourth grade 😆. It was in our class textbook and I was bored by whatever we were supposed to be reading.) I drifted around online individualist and lolbertarian essays in grammar school until I read Kropotkin's Mutual Aid in high school.

    I've had several events in my life, the lives of my social circle, and predominantly national and international news that have reinvigorated my anarchism, but I was privileged enough to be able to learn about these things before they actually happened to me. E.g. I supported police abolition before I ever got harassed by a cop.

  • Well I already graduated, twice 😅. I'm doing my PhD now and I'm still beset by liberals, but at least they're not conservatives. I even tried to go into the workforce but...well, uptight capitalist conservatives run the show in engineering firms, and they found me insufferable (not even for political reasons, I didn't even get that far, apparently I'm too technical even for technical people 🙃) (but I also am insufferable lol). So I'm aiming for academia.

  • Thank you

  • As an anarcho-communist majoring in a STEM field in

    : I am beset by liberal capitalists 💀💀💀💀💀

  • Btw, aren't you the cookie dough lover?

    Yes lol 😆

  • My response might have been a bit curt, but whether you realize it or not, you're using ecofascist framing when you argue (even casually) that population decline is a serious solution for climate change.

    Put simply: the problem isn't with the mere number of homo sapiens. The problem is that some of those homo sapiens live unsustainably in a way that is destroying our climate and local ecosystems. In particular, some of those homo sapiens are capitalists who disproportionately command whole ecosystems to be obliterated, consume and waste like there's no tomorrow (because there is no tomorrow while they're in control), and command all the world's governments to intentionally ensure that the vast majority of the other homo sapiens live in squalor and fight each other over scraps. Furthermore, ecofascists correctly identify the squalor, the fighting for scraps, and environmental obliteration that these capitalist scum impose upon us as injustices, but because they're fascists, they then blame the victims of the capitalists, e.g. climate refugees and poor minorities in the large, instead of the capitalists themselves.

    That does not mean that the Earth has an infinite carrying capacity for homo sapiens and that we can never ever have discussions about population size. But if we do that, we need to make it explicit that (1) reducing population size (involuntarily or otherwise) is not a serious solution for climate change or environmental destruction (voluntary reducing population size might be part of the solution to some problem, but...see the next point), and (2) we must resist any attempts to reduce population size in any way that violates our freedom to live and bodily autonomy. Any serious proposal for population reduction by a government or capitalist necessarily implies genocide and will likely involve eugenics since the capitalists are already racist and bigoted in a variety of intersectional ways. And even most "voluntary" population reduction schemes (e.g. of the kind """anarcho"""-primitivists call for) are really just letting the worst-off victims of capitalism die off in squalor.

    Hence why my answer is always "you first". Because if you think that population reduction is so neat, you ought to be willing to be one of the population reduced, right? Otherwise, you're implicitly putting yourself above others who, within a pro-population-reduction framework, ought to die and not give birth so that you may live without making any changes. Along what lines do you deserve to live more than the population reduced?

    As climate change becomes increasingly difficult to ignore, ecofascism is the current iteration of fascist ideology. You might have been joking, but the ecofascist who put that thought in your head? They're not! So yes, I actually do have to be curt when you do legwork for them, even by accident. There needs to be a(n extremely mild) social consequence when people do this kind of thing. You need to know that you're stepping on a landmine.

    And yes, it had to be this long and this detailed in response to a few words. Yes I could, in fact, infer all of this information about an ecofascist framing from an off-the-cuff comment of a few words length, because it's a dog whistle, and therefore there's a subtext that you are (I hope) accidentally invoking, and because I've seen it a thousand times before and I will see it a thousand times again. And yes, even if you knew all of this already and were just trying to make a joke, yes I had to comment this brick of text for the simple reason that someone else might have seen what you wrote and thought it was cool to say stuff like that without knowledge of its subtext... like I believe you did. Don't prove me wrong.

    And I hope this explains why your original comment got majority downvotes.

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