KoreanPerson @ KoreanPerson @kbin.social

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The search function on kbin.social shows lemmy communities when someone on kbin.social first subscribes to that lemmy community. It will not show up if no one has subscribed to that community before you.

This is why niche communities will be hard to find, popular communities will be easy to search.

Even within kbin instances communities are not searched globally. For example, I made a Korean language community on kbin.social, if I search for it on another kbin instance like fedia.io, it will not show up

it has the core functionalities down. but there are some relatively minor annoyances/confusion points in the user experience which should be fixed.

for context, this is from the perspective of viewing a post from a lemmy instance on a kbin instance.

when users talk about problems/culture/anything specific to their instance, they don't tend to specify which instance they are talking about. which makes things confusing for users seeing the post on other instances.
For example, the lemmy.world instance is having technical difficulties, a user makes a post saying "are we having technical problems with the site?", a kbin user has no information based on the title or content preview which instance that post is talking about.

a comprehensive search for communities in lemmy+kbin+other activitypub platforms does not exist. which makes it hard for users to search across the entire fediverse to find that one niche community that they enjoy. searching for communities on a lemmy instance only shows communities from lemmy instances, and the same for kbin For example, for a lemmy community to show up on Kbin.social, someone from kbin.social would have first needed to subscribe to that lemmy community by manually finding and entering its entire address name, only then would that community show up in a kbin.social search, or vice versa. if a kbin user has a niche interest, and a small community for that interest exists on a lemmy instance, they would not be able to find it (or at least not easily ie. needing to search through a second website that can access lemmy communities)

this may just be a personal annoyance, and it is also something more cultural than technical, but many users use either "lemmy" or "kbin" or the domain name of their instance to refer to the whole fediverse. which is probably just something that will always happen with new users, at least until the community and software becomes more developed.

try removing the "!"

this isn't a game but I used to be the same and never got any games that cost money.

Until I found the google surveys app, it gives you money for filling out surveys for Google (questions like "is this interesting?" and showing a pic of an ad. takes a couple seconds and you get $0.1-$1 from it)

now I have Stardew valley, Minecraft and about $30 just hanging around that I can use on the play store for movies or whatever. worth looking into if you didn't know about it

If this is the way that the fediverse is supposed to work then it does matter which instance you make your account in, which is exactly the opposite of what was advertised about the fediverse. because there may be a niche community which I can't find through the kbin search but that exists on some lemmy or any other software instance on the fediverse.

Why isn't the searching for communities easier? Even on more established lemmy instances like beehaw they don't show communities from non-lemmy instances. Is there some major roadblock or just that nobody has developed a comprehensive search function yet?

They don't need to ask to join.

This actually will probably happen down the line. And reddit will only keep its user base if they provide a better ui.

Lmao there's no way reddit figures out how to make a ui. They're doomed if the fediverse keeps growing

If those bad actors in sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world are willing to make an account at a new instance just to send hateful messages on beehaw communities, then it wouldn't matter if kbin.social closes new registrations because they can just go to any other instance that has open registration to send those messages to beehaw communities.

if the issue is popular instances having higher numbers of bad actors, then thats an issue for beehaw/other safe spaces. Rather than an issue for kbin (at least right now). Either way, Kbin is not advertised nor planned to be a safe space (from my understanding of ernest's posts). if there are bad actors then they can voice their hate/opinions and get downvoted/reduced. I don't think anyone on kbin.social cares if there's a minority of bad actors that might "color the site in a bad light". Especially since those bad actors aren't here as of right now.

The solution is for safe spaces like beehaw to continue defederating from popular instances to keep their space "safe". This will continue to happen whether kbin.social closes registration or not.

I've noticed Lemmyverse.net does not include kbin communities in its search and only shows communities on lemmy instances. is there a search service that can see all communities across the fediverse agnostic to the platform?

okay so here's my understanding: browse.feddit.de/ will not show you all communities on the fediverse.

feddit.de is a website built on the software called "lemmy". there are several websites that all connect to the fediverse (sh.itjust.works, kbin.social, mastodon.social, etc) running different software (lemmy, kbin, mastodon, etc). browse.feddit.de/ will only show you communities from websites that run the lemmy software

kbin is a different software from lemmy, which is different from some other software that connects to the fediverse. So far to my knowledge, there is no universal search for communities across the fediverse.

I'm not sure why, it might be due to the fact that kbin is new and search providers like at browse.feddit.de/ and https://lemmyverse.net/ haven't added kbin instances to the search function? Maybe they don't want to search for kbin instances?

if anyone wants to contribute to the Korean translations, join the m/korean magazine!

How do you search the popular tags? I made a korean language magazine and wondering which is more commonly used between "language" or "languages"

also, what are badges? I see that next to the option to add tags to a magazine