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  • What makes you say this is going into her profit? There's a lot of competition in coffee shops, so if what you say it's true there'll be someone undercutting her.

    It's more likely that besides beans her other costs have gone up, too.

    It also doesn't make sense to maintain absolute profits instead of a percentage margin. Low margin means that you aren't hedging as much against risk (if your stock is destroyed in a fire you have to pay the cost of the stock, which has increased) and aren't paying yourself any more in the face of the rising costs YOU are paying every day.

    This idea does not adequately address reality.

  • Maybe.

    All of this means that your proposed method requires toilets every couple of hundred metres between city centres and suburbs. That sounds like a ridiculous waste of resources.

  • Yeah, so the idea that you can have enough toilets to prevent this involves having toilets every few minutes, or every few hundred metres. That's kind of insane. We should try the paint, or deal with the mess.

  • I don't know the details, but as soon as you break up the stream it will not reflect cleanly.

    Peeing in a city is always going to affect others - there will be people nearby who don't want to see and hear it, and unless it is raining at that moment, it will leave a mess that affects people. I believe even peeing in the countryside can cause some negative effects due to nitrogen run off.

  • No, just a regular toilet in a public establishment. I don't know anyone who's thinking "this toilet is gross, so I'll piss in the fucking street". I guarantee you noone is wiping down the street with anti bacterial spray.

    Toilets can get busy, yet queuing for one is very normal. Have you noticed that no-one sees the queue and goes on the corner?

    That's because this is caused by drunk people failing to plan ahead and then when caught short not having any inhibitions.

  • I have been walking home with someone who pissed in the street less than a block (I don't live in the US, we don't have blocks, but it was a couple of minutes) away from home.

    Cmon, use that imagination of yours to go beyond what you have directly experienced.

    Remember too that all drunk people have come from somewhere with a working toilet, because places that serve alcohol have toilets.

  • So to you it is axiomatic that the problem is insufficient toilets. You cannot understand that there are people - usually drunk - who will not use a toilet unless they are already inside it. It is not feasible to blanket a city in toilets sufficiently to eliminate public urination, so maybe a multi-pronged approach including discouraging people from doing so is more sensible.

  • When they piss on the piss-splashing paint, it splashes them with piss, so they stop. I believe the point is that it sprays back at all angles.

    I'm not claiming it's a magic bullet, but I am claiming that if you think this is about homeless people you are not thinking about drunk people and tourists, who are the genuine target.

  • The answer is drunk people.

    I was once walking home with a drunk housemate who pissed in the street a few minutes away from home. Also "clean" does not enter into it. The street is not clean.

  • They have walked out of a club with a toilet five minutes ago. How frequently do you want there to be toilets?

    The idea is that by putting the risk in people's minds it'll be a deterrent, or else by giving people a natural consequence (and also protecting the wall from being stained with piss) it'll deter repeat offenders.

  • Right I'm sure the people who piss in our gateway, mysteriously every Friday and Saturday while bellowing at each other, are homeless rather than smashed out of their tiny troglodyte minds.

    Hamburg has a vast number of tourists, which makes it even worse, because tourists don't have to live in the city they're pissing all over, nor see again the person they flashed because the fumbled pulling up their pants.

  • Oh cool. I've seen similar stuff like extempore but not Strudel, I had no idea this would be relevant to me haha

    But I never got into those environments because I was more interested in the algorithmics of melodies which doesn't seem to be as feasible as algorithmic ambient music.