The issue is that you cannot enforce this equity when unequality arrises
"We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality." -- Mikhail Bakunin
Our other previous interactions, plus othering the other forms of leftism that are different than yours. “Not MY left,” instead of just leaving it blank comes off alarmingly as “I don’t do solidarity with leftists I don’t agree with,” which you then doubled down on by saying just that below.
What other previous interactions? Just here? (Can't be, since I've been offering refutations to that). Elsewhere? Where?
"Othering"... o_O
Well, that's not really the point of it, and also, again, I'm not forsaking the people, merely stating preference. I'm not really the one doing the othering, either. There are other philosophies. But I'm not doing any put-downs of them, so they can be mistreated. Let alone the people who hold dear to those other philosophies.
“Not MY left,” instead of just leaving it blank comes off alarmingly as “I don’t do solidarity with leftists I don’t agree with,”
Fascinating interpretation.
which you then doubled down on by saying just that below.
Please use quotes to clarify where you think I doubled down on this. It's an interpretation so contrary to my meaning, in both the original piece (and its blurb and alt-text) and my contributions to the conversations about it here throughout, that it's beyond my reach to understand where you mean.
Still seems more like what you have in your philosophy, than what's in mine. See again, the invite to consider and introspect on if that's projecting. Hard to see, our shadows are.
(I usually say that with regards to the bifurcation of Free Software licenses/philosophies, preferring copyleft [free and free alike] over permissive [free to unfree]... but it works here too [where the "alike" is more related to the egalitarianism, than the ongoing freedom assurance]. Heh.)
Maybe all the more reason to talk, if the would-be conversational partner is not for liberation.
Seems all the more important to expose those minds to educations, pedagogy, of philosophies of egalitarian liberation.
Otherwise, leaves them festering more malignant in their unchallenged echo-chamber bias of anti-liberation philosophy.
Just before clicking reply, Daryl Davis sprang to mind. The black guy who speaks with KKK and Nazi Party members, and over 200 have left those organisations, and had a change of mind (and heart), thanks to being exposed to experience and information contrary to their ignorance and hateful authoritarian indoctrination.
I was already never much a fan of the word “solidarity”
and there we have it. The greatest threat to all leftist thought it capitalism, and to be unwilling to stand against it in solidarity is what is needed before we devolve into attacking other leftists. Funny also that you’re willing to question anyones leftiness if you don’t agree to their flavor.
Fun cherry picking portions to pervert and misrepresent the original meaning by stripping the rest of it, losing more than context, and inverting the meaning, doubling down on fallacy. Fun misrepresentation putting words in my mouth and asserting what my will is, that's completely unfounded and untrue. Way to miss the point. Way to go off half-cocked and pointing fingers, projecting, oblivious to the three fingers pointing back, doing the very thing in the accusation. I merely said "not my left". I didn't do and would not do what you you insist I'm doing, like you're doing. Are we not allowed to have a particular perspective? Seems implausible. Like we're to have it all be our left... from kropotkin to stalin to half the purple party to hitler to marx, all the same? No. That's still not my left. Any of that not being my left does not mean I'm questioning anyone's leftness for not agreeing with my leftness. Especially where my leftness is. How would that be a tenable internally consistent logic to have such an authoritarian imposition from such a libertarian left position? See?
Also, methinks you may have typo'd a bit... hard to parse:
The greatest threat to all leftist thought it capitalism
[Edit [Edit, suppose I'll make this its own reply]: Oh, and... anti-solidarity? I'm all for helping everybody. I'm not falling for that psyop that I must be in solidarity with other philosophies. I was already never much a fan of the word "solidarity" (especially because of its etymology, and ease of misinterpretation by the uninitiated, itself creating a sort of in-group and out-group divide [Orwellian much?], not readily understood on first hearing as best intended, more suggestive of static crippling suffocating immobility, and thus easily usurped in service of forked tongues insidiously dividing and conquering). And then to see how you've just used it, further corroborates my point about it, and expands my dislike, seeing it used so.]
“Not my left” is some strong anti-solidarity phrasing for someone who thinks of themselves as left on this silly misrepresentational chart. What was the point that I’m missing? That you’ll abandon the left when you don’t like it?
LOL.
Way to use "the left".
Also... where do you get the notion I'll abandon "the left" from this? See where my left is? What makes you think I'll abandon anything?
3 replies so far, and such fascinating interpretations of this, showing how limited my imagination of other people's interpretations may be.
But, don't landlords at least avail housing? ~ Albeit accompanied by extorting rents, and often all manner of other compassionless abuses.
Investors though, don't they just hoard oodles of empty buildings, no matter the homeless, even welcoming increase in homeless, to further drive their investment, manufacturing scarcity, at human cost?
Alas, I learned of such things over 20 years ago... scattershot across too many sources to have retained any... largely forums that likely no longer exist, or sites that the corporate search engines no longer list (I say cynically). I cant even think of any books to point to. Best of luck.
One other tidbit that sprung to mind, the wing tips of various once-secret black stealth fighter planes had basically the same tech [electromagnetic inertial dampening] along their wing tips, to increase the rate at which they could turn. Oh, and then there's the TR-3B that's been defacto desecreted for over a decade now, at least to those interested enough to look and not reflexively disbelieve because it's outside the world view they stubbornly incuriously cling to. Just for a couple examples of this stuff since Nikola Tesla's time, in "real world" for those disinclined to entertain the idea.
Sorry, I could have just said, "no, sorry, I don't". But... further to this ramble, a couple of interesting quotes (especially interesting considering who said them, and who they work(ed) for), adding some context, first perhaps dashing hope in the faithless defeatist minds, then re-availing hope of a kind:
“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity… anything you can imagine we already know how to do.” — Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works
“It is easier for us to pay a private contractor to re-invent something so it will come out at a lower classification level, than to try to declassify it.” – Bennett Hart, then Deputy Director of the National Reconnaissance Organization
(I should really look up and add the dates for those two quotes, since I throw them around so much. I think the former from the 1990s, and the latter from the early '00s).
Did I link the wrong hoe math bit about the table concept?... If so, other hoe math videos/books can explain it better than I can. ...But I'll still try: The table's what each partner brings what they have, to, to the relationship ~ which contrasts to how some people (supposedly, according to hoe math, mostly women), think they are the table. Yeah, better to have the hoe math guy explain it. With pictures.
Follow the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla, passing by at least the Sonora Aero Club (and Charles Dellschau's 1850 drawings) and the german bell and foo-fighters, and you shall see... we never needed rockets. What wonders developed since. Zero inertia propulsion, zero-point energy, can print another of itself instantly, safe enough for a 2 year old to fly home safely in, able to sustain human life indefinitely... but sure, lets keep pretending like space is hard to do, and that rockets are the best we can do it by. XD
"We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality." -- Mikhail Bakunin