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  • I want their trials to be seen by her.

  • Isn't that what you've just done?

    Was that an intentional joke?

    I'd rather look to egalitarian emancipatory remedies, than dwell on defeatism and succumbing to ploys of "pitchforks vs torches, or opposaming in service of the polluting oligarchs and kakistarchs.

    Avail the suppressed clean emancipatory techologies, abundance is restored, people no longer feel the economic duress, "it's easy to be an angel in heaven", and we'll see "it takes a village", and can all eagerly help care for the ever dwindling "unwanted kids".

  • And then some downvote those trying to fight it. Boggles the mind.

  • We were foolish to peg our power to our labour/servitude/slavery. No path to emancipation like that. Pegs us to our abuser driving us all to doom.

    We were foolish to accept being called "ordinary people". That basically means we're ordinance. Cannon fodder.

    "Worthless eaters" some in the ruling class call us.

    We can still mend this.

    Even the richest can be better off (and not join the extinct) with the clean emancipatory technology being de-secreted and utilised. As it shall, either sooner, in wise foresight, or later, in desperation.

  • Sure... could take that impression. Or... consider:

    Patent Office whistle blower Tom Valone revealed at energy conferences in the early 00's that by the year 2000 there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted. (... That's abundant energy without pollution.)

    • “We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.” ― Buckminster Fuller

    Follow the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla (passing by the Sonora Aero Club and Charles Dellschau's drawings of what they had in 1850 (the early state of the art of what would become zero-inertia propulsion (like the foo-fighters and "the bell" ("die glocke") in (and before) WW2))), you may find many more examples of technologies we've been denied.

    Consider even the lies they {Ed Bernays (who inspired Hitler), Harry J Anslinger and Randolf William Hearst} spread to convince us our most useful resource, Cannabis, was instead a demon called "Marijuana", depriving us of the most nutritionally complete and balanced food source for humans and livestock, that can be even eaten without processing and cooking, can last for many years, can be grown in the same soil for 20 years without rotation before depleting nutrients, cleans the air over 7 times more than a pine forest, makes 7 times as much paper as trees and the paper is stronger and lasts for hundreds and even thousands of years, makes fabrics more versatile than cotton with none of the pollution and easier and without slaves, and it even can produce oil fuels like diesel, alcohol fuels like petrol, and even cheap abundant easy graphene to help make solid state capacitors and photovoltaics etc, as well as making super strong limecrete and bioplastics and on and on it goes. And I haven't even mentioned medicine and spirituality and fun yet, which it's the best at and non-lethal. All unsurprising since humanity have been in co-evolution with it, cultivating it the longest. The first writing we still have on paper, was on hemp paper, about cannabis, as a medicine. It's the main ingredient in the holy anointing oil. Salvation's return is the restoration of cannabis/hemp. No wonder competing industries sought to eliminate the competition, keeping us dependent on their inferior products, and wage slavery.

    Consider these two quotes together, and who said them:

    • “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity
 anything you can imagine we already know how to do.” — Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works
    • “It is easier for us to pay a private contractor to re-invent something so it will come out at a lower classification level, than to try to declassify it.” – Bennett Hart, then Deputy Director of the National Reconnaissance Organization

    If we release all the emancipatory technologies the corporations have been sitting on to keep us hog-tied to their polluting and inferior technology for impoverishing rents, we'll have dispelled the circular argument that we need a cull of the human population (like the top line of the Georgia Guidestones or some interpretations of Bill Gates' reductive equation suggests).

    It'd even avail all space to us (space, that's expanding, faster than we could fill it). And to populate Mars, Callisto, Ceres, etc. And to create vast spinning tube orbitals for 1G almost wherever we want. And it would let us build interconnected forest-arcologies, creating a vast forest arcology-scapes, allowing over 300 trillion humans to live here on earth, in abundant nature.

    Not saying we should.

    Just saying we have so much more headroom with proper resource management, without the crooks holding us down just so they have more than us. Egalitarian proliferation of the (currently suppressed) emancipatory technologies would have even the richest be better off.

    Or we could just keep sabotaging ourselves, sabotaging the survival of the species, held under duress to be complicitly committing ecocide, pretending things are harder than they are, just to help maintain the billionaires' rigged game. :/

    It's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want:

    “The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we 
 kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok 
 But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.” -- Bill Hicks

  • But don’t worry, someone recorded it for posterity.

    Link?

    (Was it in the article? I failed to find...)

    [With the help of an LLM] Here's a few worthy quotes:

    [Edit: Thanks Susaga for pointing out the LLM lied. Hah. LLMs. Can't trust 'em. Good lines, pity they're not true quotes.]

    "To be my own master. Such a thing would be greater than all the magic and all the treasures in all the world." — Genie, Aladdin (1992)

    "You think you’re so clever, but you’re just a cowardly, backstabbing, murderous lizard!" — Simba, The Lion King (1994)

    "A true hero isn’t measured by the size of his strength, but by the strength of his heart." — Zeus, Hercules (1997)

    "I won’t be a pawn in someone else’s game!" — Pinocchio, Pinocchio (1940)

    "You’re braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." — Christopher Robin, Winnie the Pooh (1966–1977)

    "I’d rather die tomorrow than live a hundred years without knowing freedom." — John Smith, Pocahontas (1995)

    "You can’t own a human being!" — Dr. David Q. Dawson, The Aristocats (1970)

  • I still feel the pain of the time I spent over an hour back and forth websearching, consulting with an LLM, doing calculations in ghci, for a reply to a 3-4 hour old post on intelligence, and by the time I was ready to send my reply...

    It was gone.

    It's too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?

  • Some other young ones in irc:

    • [2026-01-18 17:01:33]

      <rensenwxre>

      I've used emacs since I was 13/14, 20 now
    • [2026-01-18 17:02:11]

      <rensenwxre>

      My girlfriend also used it for a solid while, she's 22
    • [2026-01-18 17:02:19]

      <hodapp>

      so I used Emacs when I was ~15-16 but really never learned it well, then didn't touch it for 7-8 years

    11's still the number to beat, if we're counting "playing the Emacs Adventure" (which of course we should).

    13/14's a solid young use.

    I think we're starting to show emacs is not just for "old brain".

  • and shall always be

  • Does feel a little weird that I'm older than emacs.

  • Yeah, I saw that (~ my guess, he's about 40), and it lands on a similar sentiment as this guy (~ my guess about 30).

  • I'd rather DJ-Shorts' Flo

  • I didn’t use emacs much until around 2014,

    Heh. I started using emacs in 2014, when an irc friend who had been using it for a decade were moving parts of their 10 year old config to a new one (iirc, they were moving to org-mode config), and then in 2024, I did the same, moved my 10 year old config over to an org-mode config.

    Anyhoo,

    but I remember playing the Emacs Adventure around 2006 when I was 11.

    1. Can we count that as the youngest yet?
  • "The economics of the future are somewhat different." -- Picard

  • 👍

    My British autism and too long time spent online among non-Brits causing me to consider it could have been meant non-sarcastically. Those people are out there.

  • vendefoul

    https://vendefoul-wolf-linux.sourceforge.io/index_en.html / https://sourceforge.net/projects/vendefoul-wolf-linux/ back on my radar, with its IceWM/Xlibre/OpenRC release, after seeing the intro to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGf5OeL4YHE

    • Already a fan of IceWM, often recommending it. It's super light and super simple and familiar to windows users since the 90s (meaning it has a panel and "start menu").
    • XLibre, a fan, though only from afar so far, yet to try. Glorious to see X11 & Xorg(fork) getting life extension, rather than euthanized by the corporation.
    • OpenRC is thorough. :) Solid choice.

    All this saves [computer and headspace] resources for what you really want to do. :)

  • Rush.

    (Just saying that so you pop by, and we can listen to some Rush together, maybe also some Yes, Hawkwind, Floyd, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Dream Theater, Fleetwood Mac, and Golden Earing's Radar Love.)

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    Who is the youngest emacs user?

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