[Serious] If a human is trained by AI slop and then they make something with their own hands, is it still art?
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"explore and recombine" isn't really the words I would use to describe generative AI. Remember that it is a deterministic algorithm, so it can't really "explore." I think it would be more accurate to say that it interpolates patterns from its training data.
As for comparison to humans, you bring up an interesting point, but one that I think is somewhat oversimplified. It is true that human brains are physical systems, but just because it is physical does not mean that it is deterministic. No computer is able to come even close to modeling a mouse brain, let alone a human brain.
And sure, you could make the argument that you could strip out all extraneous neurons from a human brain to make it deterministic. Remove all the unpredictable elements: memory neurons, mirror neurons, emotional neurons. In that case, sure - you'd probably get something similar to AI. But I think the vast majority of people would then agree that this clump of neurons is no longer a human.
A human uses their entire lived experience to weigh a response. A human pulls from their childhood experience of being scared of monsters in order to make horror. An AI does not do this. It creates horror by interpolating between existing horror art to estimate what horror could be. You are not seeing an AI's fear - you are seeing other people's fears, reflected and filtered through the algorithm.
More importantly, a human brain is plastic, meaning that it can learn and change. If a human is told that they are wrong, they will correct themselves next time. This is not what happens with an AI. The only way that an AI can "learn" is by adding on to its training data and then retraining the algorithm. It's not really "learning," it's more accurate to say that you're deleting the old model and creating a new one that holds more training data. If this were applied to humans, it would be as if you grew an entirely new brain every single time you learned something new. Sounds inefficient? That's because it is. Why do you think AI is using up so much electricity and resources? Prompting and generating an AI doesn't use up much resources; it's actually the training and retraining that uses so much resources.
To summarize: AI is a tool. It's a pretty smart tool, but it's a tool. It has some properties that are analogous to human brains, but lacks some properties that make it truly similar. It is in techbros' best interests to hype up the similarities and hide the dissimilarities, because hype drives up the stock prices. That's not to say that AI is completely useless. Just as you have said in your comment, I think it can be used to help make art, in a similar way that cameras have been used to help make art.
But in the end, when you cede the decision-making to the AI (that is, when you rely on AI for too much of your workflow), my belief is that the product is no longer yours. How can you claim that a generated artpiece is yours if you didn't choose to paint a little easter egg in the background? If you didn't decide to use the color purple for this object? If you didn't accidentally paint the lips slightly skewed? Even supposing that an AI is completely human-like, the art is still not yours, because at that point, you're basically just commissioning an artist, and you definitely don't own art that you've commissioned.
To be clear, this is my stance on other tools as well, not just AI