Please stay safe, AOC

No, don’t. The opposition playing it safe is how the fascists are winning.

Your comment https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43455840/18472152

Yeah, that's why I quoted you in full.

I don't have a problem with remembering what you wrote. You do.

pulling implications of sexism out of thin fucking air.

Read it again carefully . . . but thank you for confirming the accuracy. Not everyone who genuinely supports the rights of women is a woman, lol.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Apologize. Now.

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Hey, glad to see you here. I was on my way to the old wiki when I saw it had been banned and posted same, so I am absolutely thrilled you've found your way to your new home, especially here on dbzer0 because this instance is one of the best, imo.

Take your time, I'm in no hurry, but I do look forward to seeing your reestablished wiki in due course. In the meantime, welcome! You'll never look back at that bot-infested banhammerhappy powergrab that is Reddit now, I promise. :D

Yes, I know what you meant. But the reality is, defeating fascism is not a safe thing to do. If we all stick with the mentality of being safe, we will lose our rights forever.

Edit: I guess the downvotes I’m getting just go to show how many of us are fascists and/or cowards.

Edit 2: keep downvoting without replying to refute my point, fascist cowards. You’re only proving me right with every click. You have no fucking rebuttal and you know it.

Yeah, no. That's not a choice you get to make for AOC.

It's not even a choice you get to make for anyone but yourself.

I'll put it another way, perhaps more clearly:

If you volunteer your own safety and even your life in the cause of defending others from evil, you're a hero. I mean that sincerely.

But when you freely volunteer someone else's safety and even their own life for a cause that you have determined they should suffer and die for, no matter how noble or ethical, you are just another arrogant prick who has strayed SO far from your own lane that you've become blind to your own anti-fascist cause, even the moral lines you 100% believe you're defending.

Add to this the fact that AOC is female, and how many men believe women are disposable and even interchangeable, and that just adds a whole 'nother level of self-engaged fuckery to your outburst.

In case all this isn't clear enough for you, FASCISTS are the ones who gleefully sacrifice others to their cause and blithely determine them all to be sacrifices they're willing to make on the behalf of the majority. Maybe go back and think about what you're really advocating before you adopt the exact same tactics you decry in others to make it happen.

In the meantime you richly deserve every downvote you get.

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Please stay safe, AOC

No, don’t. The opposition playing it safe is how the fascists are winning.

That’s not how this works.

So you can't name one either.

If you’re running an instance, it’s your responsibility to find an appropriate tool.

That's exactly what the admin here did, and what's more, he did so because he was forced to do so by a lack of "appropriate" or even adequate tools.

Hence the straightforward question you failed to answer.

I don't run an instance. CSAM is but one of the many reasons why. But I have been paying attention to the discussions regarding the flood of it here, and the impossibilities involved in starting from scratch with preventing/blocking this on a federated instance.

But for reasons I cannot begin to fathom, and with an intense interest in seeing this anti-CSAM tool remain unused, you are blithely sailing by all that with a demand for using a tool you personally could not even name and obviously does not exist in acceptable form, or it would already have been gladly implemented.

Glad he's ignoring you and carrying on. I think I'll do the same.

For abuse detection, you need to use a service that has been vetted by an actual lawyer.

Name one. That exists and already works on Fediverse instances.

The crime happened in the past when the children were abused.

That's true. You could look at it that way and stop right there and remain absolutely correct. Or, you could also look at it from the eventual viewpoint of that victim as a human being: as long as that picture exists, they are being victimized by every new use of it, even if the act itself was done decades ago.

Not trying to pile on, but anyone who has suffered that kind of violation as a child suffers for life to some extent. There are many who kill themselves, and even more that cannot escape addiction because the addiction is the only safe mental haven they have where life itself is bearable. Even more have PTSD and other mental difficulties that are beyond understanding for those who have not had their childhood development shattered by that, or worse, had that kind of abuse be a regular occurrence for them growing up.

So to me, adding a visual record of that original violating act to the public domain that anyone can find and use for sick pleasure is an extension of the original violation and not very different from it, IMO.

The visual records are kind of a sick gift that never stop giving, and worse still if the victim knows the pics or videos are out there somewhere.

I am well aware not everyone sees it this way, but an extra bit of understanding for the victims would not go amiss. Imagine being an adult and browsing the web, thinking it's all in the past and maybe you're safe now, and stumbling across a picture of yourself being raped at the age of five, or whatever, or worse still, having friends or family or spouse or children stumble across it.

So speaking only for myself, I think CSAM is a moral crime whenever it is accessed, one of the most hellish that can be committed against another human being, regardless of the specificities of the law.

I don't have a problem with much else that people share, but goddamn I do have a problem with that.