Fighting against anti-lemmy misinformation on reddit
Fighting against anti-lemmy misinformation on reddit
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Please check my post, I think everything I said is very valid, but I want this community to see it too, and help steer the discussion, I think reddit is doing this intentionally.
I haven't read the post over on Reddit, I refuse to visit the site.
Of course there will be misinformation floating around there always is in these kind of situations, reddit would be a ghost town over night otherwise
I believe this is deliberate by the reddit team, actually.
But I have no way of proving that, the misinformation is truly braindead, though.
Oh I can guarantee some loser has taken it upon themselves to do this to in their eyes protect their beloved website
I can't see the message due to the blackout. Any chance it could be copied here?
Here's what was written there:
I think there's a team of people intentionally spreading lemmy misinformation. I think reddit is trying to get people not to switch from this platform
People are saying the same things everywhere, but on any analysis, they don't actually make sense, let me give an example:
Lemmy is absolutely too convoluted for normal people. "There are multiple servers, many of which overlap with each other content-wise? Which one am I supposed to use? This isn't as simple as reddit," says the photographer who posted to /r/earthporn, says the politics junkie who posted in /r/worldnews, says the creative writer who posted to /r/nosleep.
There is no way to prevent this from happening again. It will happen again, no matter what. If Lemmy gets big, it will only do so if a couple servers rise above all others so the normies can understand that those are the servers to join... and those servers eventually will take advantage of their users just as reddit has done."
There's no aspect of truth to this comment, as an example, let's try actually doing what they're saying is too hard:
click "communities"
search "news"
oh, there's the one at the top with the most subscribers
Done
So, did they just make up that it was too convoluted for normal people? Yes. Is there some truth to the notion that there are multiple communities for the same thing... Also yes, but there are on reddit too, it's no different than r/art and r/art1 r/art2 and the billion other subreddits in a similar position. People just search and then use the largest one... so is it an actual problem, or is it just grasping at straws? You be the judge of that.
Are there things that make lemmy difficult? Yes, but they're rapidly being solved and extremely minimal, other than that issue tracker, the other thing that might stop you is that some lemmy instances require a message and approve signup, this is because they widely aren't monetized and are run by volunteers with no intention of ever monetizing. Neither of these things are real blockers to normal human adoption, and neither of them are long-term fundamental issues.
If you think federation is too complex for normal users, I ask you, why does email face no such difficulty? Why is nobody complaining about how difficult email is because of federation?
The other issue is genuinely a problem, the lemmy developers are tankies... however, lemmy is released under an open source license, none of their ideology is being injected into the code, and this is akin to worrying about the ideology of the developers of email. Use an instance not created by them, and you're safe from this entirely, I recommend https://beehaw.org/
Don't let the misinformation factory stress you, I don't have proof that reddit is doing this on purpose, but this seems to be a common set of lies... and if you don't like lemmy anyway, there's also kbin, which federates with lemmy but is made by completely separate developers.
Federation is NECESSARY for a non-corpo/government propaganda AND control ridden future. If reddit were federated, nobody would give a fuck about this api thing, because we'd just go to another instance, and all of our content would still be available on that other instance. That's why reddit fears federation, none of the issues with lemmy are fundamental, let's build a better future, one where we don't have to hope a benevolent centralized monopoly/dictatorship on a community will work for us!
And lemmy is the only way to save these precious reddit apps: https://github.com/derivator/tafkars/tree/main/tafkars-lemmy
I agree with a number of these complaints. I'm migrating over from reddit and I'm having a number of issues similar to what was posted.
Here's my experience.OK the blackout started, I moved Apollo and Narwall to page 2 of my phone so I don't muscle memory click on them. I google lemmy because that's what people were talking about switching too before the blackout. I get linked to a page that says lemmy is a bunch of instances and it doesn't matter which one you join. ok.... but which one do I join? I goto the instance page and sort by which server has the most users and is in my country. Beehaw it is I guess. Let's sign up. Oh there's a form you have to answer questions about why you fit here and a human is going to approve me (still waiting on that one). Lets see which one has open registration, Lemmy.World. I try registering and it just spins (still does, tried it again today in firefox, safari, and edge). OK well lets keep trying until we get one to work (lemmynsfw.com was the winner at the time and since then I got an account at https://sh.itjust.works).
OK I'm in and I'm on a NSFW instance but I'm looking for technology, news, and politics. OK communities ALL, which technology do I join (Beehaw, lemmy.ml, midwest.social)?
It took me almost a day to get setup and the top search results on the issues I was facing all linked to reddit pages I wasn't going to click on.
I'm setup now and looking forward to things getting sorted out (there will be clear winners we all migrate to). I really don't understand the benefit of being federated. I honestly would prefer a single site that's a nonprofit similar to wikipedia but I'll be using this for now.
Definitely agree with you, though I'm not sure if it's reddit sponsored, users who don't know what they're talking about, or some other motivation.
I saw a post that said it has a large number of tankies and Nazis but have yet to find either.
I feel like Nazis always out themselves online and so far I haven't seen a lot of that on Lemmy yet. Tankies are a little harder to sus out unless the topic is relevant.