Science Fiction @kbin.social inkican @kbin.social 1y ago

How Apple became the king of sci-fi

news.yahoo.com How Apple became the king of sci-fi

Apple TV+ has eclipsed other streamers' science fiction offerings

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Admittedly, For All Mankind is pretty much worth it by itself.
- We’ve watched Severance, Mythic Quest, and a few others. But not that. Good to know, thanks!
  
  If you like Ronald D Moore's other work (a lot of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the Battlestar Galactica reboot) there's a good chance you'll like For All Mankind. In my mind it's the Star Trek prequel show we should have had.
  
  Not sci-fi but The After Party season 2 is just airing on atv+ right now and the first season is a tour de force
- I love this show so much
I’m just hoping they pick up the Expanse baton from SyFy and Amazon and finish the series.
- I wish they get the Orville.
- The only reason I haven’t watched the Expanse yet, is because I know there is no ending (yet). I’m done with watching shows that just stop due to some management decision. If the confirm the ending is in the works, then I will start watching
  
  @Ronno Watch it.
  The show ends in a completely logical place and wraps up that entire timeline near perfectly. It doesn’t feel like anything’s missing.
  The next three books are set 30 years later in another system. Same crew, wildly different everything else. That’s why they chose not to film them. It wasn’t just ‘ended early’
  
  @inkican @AbouBenAdhem
  
  To be fair the books end leaving you wanting more too! The show has an ending that's good, it's just ... Missing decades of content that's in the books!
  
  The show is definitely worth watching and was incredibly enjoyable, fwiw.
  
  They also killed a main character for real life legal troubles. So that might be difficult to continue the cannon.
Apple TV+ started rather slow, but the quality of the shows is just insane, and not just when it comes to scifi. So far, the only show that I didn't like from TV+ was Hello Tomorrow, which had a lot of style and potential, but just never went anywhere.
- @Perry Haha of course the one show I worked on haha.
  
  @inkican
  
  Oof, I'm sorry, but perhaps it was a matter of expectations. I feel that the problem that I had with the show was that it started off on the premise of some Fallout-style retro futurism, with what I guess one could call "dangerous techno optimism" of the 50's and 60's.
  
  However, beyond the first episode where the woman gets killed by the automated postal car, this never really gets explored much further than some occasional background elements. The story could just as well have been set in the actual 50's and it wouldn't have changed much.
  
  Now normally, I don't generally have issues with character driven stories where the setting comes secondary (e.g. Ted Lasso is a character driven comedy set on the backdrop of football), but in this case it was the setting that actually interested me to begin with.
  
  It's a shame, because all the individual pieces, from acting, to scenery and atmosphere were great, it's just that the show never clicked with me in the end, because it wasn't what I thought it would be.
  
  If it's any consolation, I've been raving about the show since it came out. Been calling it a "realistic fallout prequel that does its own thing".
  
  What was your role? Just curious ... :)
- I finished hello tomorrow and if you look past the lens of retro futurism it is a quality character piece
- My only problem with picking up Apple TV for scifi is that all these shows are in their infancy. Most are only 1 season, and that hardly feels like enough motivation to start the show knowing there could just never be a second season. Netflix burned me with good shows getting cancelled and I can't motivate myself to start something with less than 2 seasons.
Foundation, Silo and Severance are some of the best things I've watched.
- Such a fan of Silo. I don't know why but the world they built is so fascinating to me.
  
  I wanted to like Silo. The production was amazing, the cast was excellent, and the concept is very cool. But the storytelling didn't grab me. The twist in season 1 was telegraphed way too early and a bit clumsily, which left the rest of the season feeling flat for me.
I am loving Foundation. I'm really glad Apple TV has taken the chance to do series like these. My wife also really likes Loot, which is supposed to air their second season sometime this summer.

Our next series will be Ted Lasso. I'm looking forward to watching it.
- IMO Foundation should be more accurately called Foundation and Empire (also the title of Asimov's second book). The Empire storylines have generally been compelling. The Foundation storylines not so much. I hope that they address that imbalance in the second season. (And not by making the Empire stuff worse!)
  
  They would have to pick up the pace a lot.
  It might be a few seasons before they get there at this pace. The entire first season happens in the first few chapters of book 1...
Maybe I'm ignorant but it does seem like the people that run apple as a whole would be the ones who actually get good scifi.
I'd love it if they'd take on the Perry Mason reboot.
- I’d give you gold for this comment…

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