The insane windows hate on Lemmy is actually pushing me away from wanting to try Linux. Some of you are insufferable, like your entire personality is that you use Linux.
How can you tell someone is a Linux user?
Don't worry they'll tell you
I said this exact same thing a few months ago and was downvoted to oblivion lol
@Cold_Brew_Enema @Shard
Yeah why do we have so big egos 😟
You think OP isn't a Windows 10 user? Why?
Oh, bless your heart. You just be new here! Welcome!
A vast majority of the people on Lemmy use Linux. Or, at least, the Linux users on here are the most vocal about their OS. Just type in "Linux" in the community search, and you'll find dozens and dozens of linux communities with thousands of subscribers, compared to a handful of Windows communities with only a few hundred subscribers.
@Cold_Brew_Enema
Lol. I don't hate Windows 😂 I'm just joking.Use whatever you want 😄
It's fucking unreal how many of them froth at the mouth about Linux. Like, fuck off.
By the way, I actually endorse Linux for limited uses. I'm just realistic about it... It's simply not a solution for everything.
I highly doubt that if you were given the actual choice you'd pick the one that could permanently dammage your eyes over using an annoying operating system.
This is just stupid.
I'm pretty convinced that that won't permanently damage your eyes, I don't think it's acidic enough.
Only one way to find out
Any chef can attest also toilet breaks
@stoy hehe. of course i would chose the annoying OS instead :D
Others mentioned how they did it so I would rather have pain for a day or two than lifelong
Ahh yes. Typical Windows bad, linux good meme. When questioned why linux is better, the answer will be beating around the bush sort of it's worth the months of tweaking to get the WiFi adapter to work. And it's quite embarrassing to see all these guys who post abominations like this without knowing anything about debloating Windows and stripping the installation to make a perfect install without Microsoft bullshit. If Linux works for you, Good for you. If Windows works for you, Good for you. Get over it. This is cringe at this point.
I just started my switch to Linux and the only things that don't work out of the box on my brand new Lenovo laptop are things that have no bearing on the actual use of the device. And frankly, spending hours fiddling to make things work is much more satisfying than spending hours trying to figure out how to stop Microsoft spying on me.
...for you.
TL;DR there are good and bad things, positives and drawbacks about all OSes, educate, don't gatekeep.
I have a laptop that runs Windows fine, then installed Linux on it.
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The trackpad was not well supported and glitched often, as was the fingerprint sensor. I personally am not going to not use fingerprint because some neck beard says it's very insecure and blah blah blah, I don't care. The fingerprint is for me to have any sort of authentication prompt.
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Often times, the computer would boot up without recognizing the WiFi adapter (classic).
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The DE that I used, Gnome, was riddled with shitty defaults and random weird behavior, also missing settings from the main settings app in Gnome 43! Not Gnome 1 or 2, 43. Isn't that a bit embarrassing? I've used KDE before, I like that one, though I like the aesthetics and simplicity of Gnome, I wish it just didn't come with retarded defaults.
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Bluetooth connectivity was hit-or-miss as well, sometimes not getting my device, sometimes not wanting to pair it, etc.
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The app store on either Fedora, Manjaro, Ubuntu or PopOS! all had some kind of missing, broken, or unintuitive functionality that seemed quite obvious how it could be fixed, just that I couldn't be bothered.
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Screen sharing with audio doesn't work on Discord, could not find any 1080p60 streaming software that was free or paid or anything. Scoured all of the internet and GitHub, so I'm not switching.
I could go on. Basically there's many shitty things about it. There are also loads of things I adore about Linux, like fast boot times, lower RAM and swap usage, less background apps, better extensibility and customizability, great development experience etc. I love Linux. However, it feels like work to actually get it to work sometimes, which gets in the way of most people's intention to just use the God damn computer for stuff they want to use, and it working.
Let people choose what they want, don't berate people for not choosing what you like, instead educate on what they may be missing out on, but at the end of the day, respect their decision. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
P.S. My laptop wasn't a DXFGFH Fuckbook 3938WGT or whatever with a Bluetooth adapter from Jupiter, it was a recent, but not bleeding-edge, ASUS VivoBook.
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I have never had any issues getting WLAN, sound, USB or anything to work if i didn't build on minimal Arch or something super nerdy.
Ubuntu, Debian, Pop!, Mint, all work perfectly well in these regards. Only thing you usually have to do something is for gaming. But even that has become very easy by installing wine and proton. Steam even lets you set force compatibility modes for every game.
Debloating or preparing a clean Windows installation is more of a hassle and requires far more skill and research than setting up a working Linux system. Let alone the growing effort Microsoft puts into forcing users into Microsoft Accounts.
If Linux works for you, Good for you. If Windows works for you, Good for you.
I agree to that, but man, "Linux is too hard to set up" is straight up BS nowadays. And Microsoft and Windows do have many issues that need to be pointed out and criticized.
Proves your lack of knowledge in Windows. You can literally do all Debloat in a single go with Chris Titus' Windows Debloat Tools, which explains everything clearly. Or you can just "winget list all" then "winget uninstall whatever the hell you want". I have said this many times, I have been building PCs for over 20 years now. Recently I installed Linux Mint, Zorin OS and I couldn't get my onboard WiFi 6 Adapter to work properly, it never detects a WiFi 5Ghz network. Unfortunately I have to use an NVIDIA Card for my blender render, and I'm not wasting anyone's time about what a mess it is. Even with my 6750 XT it was a mess. Now the counter statement will be "It's the manufacturers fault for not providing proper drivers". Well as an end consumer, I don't have time to blame Corporates, I just need to get my work done.
You're right, no one cares what other people use, but comparing a debloated Windows install with a proper Linux install is just dumb. A debloated Windows install will never be "perfect" or exist without Microsoft bullshit it literally depends on most of it. And I'm not bashing debloating of Windows here. It's a fair choice if you have to use Windows and want a bit more of a lightweight experience. Personally I use Linux to use more FOSS software, tiling window managers and having in general a better idea of how my system works. And yes you're right that that's not for everyone but all I'm saying is that there should be an option besides amputating a shitty anti-consumer OS. At this point people are comfortable using a borked version of an OS whose main business strategy has become collection of personal data.
Over the last few years I've installed various flavors of Linux on 4 random machines of different types. Haven't had trouble with WiFi on any of them. I've barely used windows and had piles of trouble with it just about every time.
Cry about the post I guess?
Indeed. Linux nowadays works out of the box if you choose a distro such as Ubuntu or Fedora.
The Wifi issue thing is an old story which was a reality back in 2005 when I started using Linux.
Wow!! Thanks! I will try to debloat windows now and then replace all linux installations of mine with your suggestion. Which filesystem should I use to support paths > 256 characters on Windows?
Also: How can I bind my favorite Applications to my usual shortcuts? Never found that option in the settings.
I recently added windows to a separate drive on my linux machine, when I installed linux everything worked out of the box, meanwhile on windows I had to download the wifi drivers on a separate device and transfer them over to be able to even access the internet
@trailblazer911
I'm not criticising other people's choices. People can use whatever they prefer 😄I'm not saying Linux is better than Windows.
I've used windows all my life, and I have no idea what you're talking about... I just boot that shit and it's fine. Never good, but fine. It works.
Things I'd rather read than linux vs windows memes:
I've done this. Do not recommend.
*I was extremely drunk on tequila at the time and it was on a dare
So edgy, you go girl.
Seriously, someone go pick OP
Okay, I'll be that guy... Why is "go girl" a dig here?
This is stupid. Don't do this.
@jaschen
I'll never do any of them 🤪
Not nearly awful as using a Mac though.
I'm forced to use Win 11 at work, for sEcUrItY.
But I'm actually working within a full-screen Debian VM on HyperV until someone with authority tells me to knock it off.The update has been queued for about a month on my work computer. No. I won’t do it.
Surprised to see so many defending windows 11 here! The ad insertion all throughout the system is SO bad, but what they've done to the right-click (context?) Menu was the last straw. Like, most options are hidden underneath the stupid inflated touch-friendly list. Give me a button to disable it (that isn't in the registry), at least!
The final straw for me though was my VR just quit one day - but I could dual boot back to windows 10 and it was fine somehow 🤷♂️ did a bunch of tricks to get it working to no avail, so I scrapped the windows 11 demo partition and finally gave Linux a try.
VR definitely isn't ready on Linux (if you're stuck with an nvidia card like I am, for now) - but considering the OS is built on FOSS and its this feature rich and stable??? Never going back.
@Xttweaponttx
Yeah i agree. The ad stuff is really bad. Having ads in the browser is enough. I don't want it in my OS. But even all the way back in Windows 7 some people busted Windows in "calling home" when something was entered in the search field in the Start menu. This was caught using the ZoneAlarm firewall.
Unless your company forces you to use citrix VDI so you create a separate VM and install windows for this.
So you can pour Tabasco in your eyes?
Wooooooah. My wife’s new glasses actually came with a tiny bottle of Tabasco sauce (with the eye doctor’s business info printed on it).
I’d give them credit for the meme, but I have a feeling they’re clueless, as they also push “healing salt lamps” in that place.
Her new progressives came out great at least though!
