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Have you had any bad experiences with people on Kbin yet? Can we do better than Reddit culture?

lemmy.world Have you had any bad experiences with people on Lemmy? - Lemmy.world

I was recently talking to some friends about Lemmy and the whole Fediverse idea, as it seemed like a really cool part of the Internet. As I was talking about it, though, I realized how unusually friendly this whole place is, and I joked that I “surprisingly haven’t found any bigotry.” I’m wondering ...

However, when reddit crapped the bed, by comparison, the threadiverse basically didn’t have an established culture. There was a handful of lemmy instances (we were one of them), but the only one of notable size was lemmy.ml. kbin didn’t even exist in any meaningful way until a couple of months before reddit died.

So, when reddit died, there was no established culture. Instead, people brought reddit culture with them, and reddit culture, because of lax admins, was much more tolerant of hate speech than microfedi. And so, people who are “reddit people” more than “fediverse people” set up lemmy and kbin instances, and brought those reddit norms with them.

So then, you get instances like blahaj and beehaw that are threadiverse instances, but have the “old school” microfedi approach to bigotry. We smash it down hard at the first hint of seeing it, but most of the instances we federate with don’t attack it so aggressively.

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  • It's not "reddit culture", IMO, it's just human nature. Small groups are different from large groups and we've got large groups here now.

    • @FaceDeer Do we? Or do we have lots of small groups in the same space?

      It does seemthat Mastodon culture is different to Threadiverse culture. I'm OK with that, Mastodon is a little earnest for my tastes. It would be nice if we could keep the worst of Reddit out of here with robust moderation

      • There were plenty of smaller subreddits with distinct "cultures" over on Reddit as well. As you say, moderation is key. Moderation is a lot easier for smaller communities.

      • Reddit actively encouraged far right groups in the name of "engagement". Also, Huffman has never made a secret of his right wing leanings. Here we have a chance to keep out the fuckers by sane and consistent moderation. Also we don't have algorithms here that foment hate and divisiveness.

  • I wonder if we could/ should enforce moderation ratios in code? You need 1mod per 1k users for example. Your magazine is locked to new users until you add one.

  • Thankfully never had direct interactions whit unsavoury types , but sadly there's unsavoury mags out there when looking through modlog

    They're documented here , am just focusing on ones on our instance (kbin.social) . Hope it takes similar moderation approach !

  • I've had some frustrating experiences. A few weeks ago when I posted something, even if other people disagreed, they would respond with the kindness of assuming that I'm speaking in good faith. More and more people are responding to my comments rather aggressively. It's mostly people with far left views, which I suppose is better than people with far right views, but it's still rather off-putting.

    It's gotten bad enough that I almost expect for someone to respond to this comment negatively.

  • The only bad experience I’ve had on kbin are the updates messing with my logins.

    But in a serious note, the three user I’ve gone to report have already been kicked off by the time I’ve tried reporting them to @ernest. For that, I’m thankful. But that is on the .social. Also, I’ve not been super active since middle of the week due to a food poisoning situation. So, maybe I missed a bunch of recent activity.

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