Putin says he would prefer Biden to win the United States election rather than Trump
Putin says he would prefer Biden to win the United States election rather than Trump
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Bullshit
What's unusual about preferring the more stable and predictable party? Republicans are less anti-Russia one day, then say some bs about space nukes the other. At least Biden's a bit more consistent.
Reverse psychology? Is he trying to make libs think that Biden has been compromised by Russia, therefore Trump wins, which is actually what Putin wants?
or and here me out here, he is not lieing? just maybe, like you are doing lots of mental gymnastics to get to the point of he is lieing for reverse phycology and doing like a tripple bluff, when accams razer would sugest it is just he means what he says.
Note in no way am I pro Trump ... nor do I want trump to win.
I don't think that anywhere near as many people that thought Trump was "compromised" would believe Biden has been. If anything Biden constantly demanding more and more money and arms stockpiles from the US to go to Ukraine is kind of a win for Russia. As it means less money and arms are being kept by the US. It weakens us in money and supplies. The constant cheerleading about standing with Ukraine until the end and all territories are returned, kind of makes it hard to save face and cut off the supply line. Trump being much more prone to impulses and thrives on attention is much more likely to change directions even if people scream at him about it. Just as long as he can be the centre of attention and not really care about the situation.
That being said, Putin is definitely fucking with everyone. It helps create chaos for both parties to constantly be too focused on accusing each other of being "compromised." And the best part is that he doesn't even have to actually do anything other than exist for this to happen.
https://youtu.be/KX2WVIaVUGo?t=23
I would say at least our electorate is smarter than Elmer Fudd, but...
https://youtu.be/MfGVB6xADGo?t=17
(yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath on that)
Does that mean Republicans are going to vote Biden since they shill Russia?
Nope. Just means that Republicans are going to switch back to anti Russia suddenly and without a reason except "he said democrats are good"
In reality, putler's entire strategy for the US has been to create discord and chaos and bank on the fact that we'll be too paralyzed as a country to properly react to the things Russia does.
God damn mega troll... Gotta admire the legendary mind fuckery against for both sides though.
Welp we now know the truth... Putin is pushing for Trump again.
How do you get that, Like you took the longer and harder to understand path here, there is a path where he would prefer Biden for reasons of IDK deplomacy, now I do not understand why, as Biden has been just as bad as trump on that front, but there are some potential reasons.
Look if Justin Trudou said he wanted Biden to win, would you say he was pushing for trump?
Look if Justin Trudou said he wanted Biden to win, would you say he was pushing for trump?
I think that question requires about 8 years of ignored context to be valid?
If Trudeau has spent billions of dollars and half a million Canadian lives attempting to invade a smaller country, and Democrats were the only thing standing in his way...... Yeah, I would say he's pushing for trump.
That's not even mentioning the election interference.... Or the fact that Trump is basically screaming that he'd destroy NATO if given the chance. You know, Russia's proclaimed casus belli of the war.
Imagine having coherent politics and recognizing that Putin knows that Biden is more stable than Trump and would be less likely to escalate the war in Ukraine...
...Instead of having to be like "is he playing mindgames? Is this him trolling us? He says he wants blue team to win in 2024, but we are blue team and we hate him!"
Trump seems like he is more likely to dismiss the war or help the Russian side by weakening NATO. Why would Biden be preferable to Russia if he is going to continue trying to supply Ukraine?
The thing is Trump would either weaken nato by insisting on member nations upping their military expenditures or escalate the war.
In the first case NATO doesn't need to weaken for Russia to accomplish its immediate objectives, it is weak enough already.
In the latter case nukes might fly.
It makes sense for Putin to want Biden to stay president, there would be no additional winning and major risk with a Trump presidency.
He says he wants blue team to win in 2024, but we are blue team and we hate him!
Well we're off to an awfully bad start because this is about the shallowest bad faith caricature I could possibly imagine. Let's put it this way:
- Putin absolutely has a propaganda strategy aimed toward the west that utilizes a number of tools and messaging strategies
- Among the strategies reported on, one has been to escalate existing divisions within the United States, with one example reported on being creating opposing conservative and liberal events and scheduling them at the same location
- Purin preferred Trump for his first term
- Putin preferring Biden can be politically damaging to Biden in the context of domestic politics
- a Trump victory could prove exceptionally destabilizing to domestic politics in the United States
I'm not even 100% saying I'm right, but every step of this is perfectly reasonable, it doesn't rely on any outlandish assumptions, and communication about this isn't helped by mocking people with bad faith caricatures and performative incredulity.
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complains of caricature
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demonstrates the caricature
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Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer pulled the same sneering bullshit in 2020.
Anyone who parrots this sincerely can be blocked without hesitation or regret. No, the guy at war with Ukraine because he's mad at NATO does not actually want the guy funding Ukraine instead of the guy undermining NATO.
I can't even comprehend the people somehow awed by this trivial child-move. It is the most obvious stupid lie he could tell, and it doesn't even prevent him from later saying the exact opposite, because the people who buy it don't really care about words.
Thing is, Trump isn't "undermining NATO", he's trying to escalate the war by calling upon member states to increase military expenditure or he says he'll let Russia have at them - which is a lie of course, someone put in power through the US political system genuinely wanting to undermine their imperialist institutions would just be replaced, like JFK was for wanting to abolish the CIA.
It makes sense to prefer the more stable and predictable party over the one that's less anti-Russia one day, then spouts some bs about Russian space nukes the next, specially when the war has more or less been working out for Russia lately under that stable party.
Wartime is the best time to pull out the block. Can't remember how many people on mastodon I yeeted for cheering on the genocide of Palestine. All I can say is that my experience there has been a lot better ever since I did. Genocidal fascists are consistently the worst posters.
I believe it. Biden's support of genocide is making the US a pariah state to the rest of the world stage.
Trump pushes the US away from the West. Biden pushes the US away from the rest.
Really? But we already did our own genocide and we've been attacking everyone nonstop since WWII. Supporting genocide is what did it?
Yes because nobody wants to be seen as working with someone actively supporting an ongoing genocide.
So he likes that Biden is more "predictable" than Trump. Ig that's true enough.
Probably because that would cause more internal strife than a trump victory
A former CIA officer basically argued the same thing back in 2022
Probably thinks Harris would be easier to control once statistics catch up.
Well, the emergency war meetings will be bubbly
Meaning he would really hate if biden wins. It's always the same shit, accusing the "enemy" of exactly what they are doing, and pretending the exact opposite of what they want... Nothing new under the sun.