Have you had any bad experiences with people on Lemmy?
I was recently talking to some friends about Lemmy and the whole Fediverse idea, as it seemed like a really cool part of the Internet. As I was talking about it, though, I realized how unusually friendly this whole place is, and I joked that I "surprisingly haven't found any bigotry."
I'm wondering if anyone has come across that, by any chance. If it's rare, my guess is that even though it's decentralized, each instance has a set of rules and values that are shared throughout the Fediverse, and I'm guessing it's easy to defederate with any seedy communities haha.
A little, but most of it isn't even targeted at our users. Lots of the stuff I see is just stuff reported by our users, in communities that have nothing to do with us specifically.
It's interesting, we've got blahaj.zone itself, and even though it doesn't have as many users as our lemmy instance, we're lucky if we see a report every couple of days over there.
The microblogging fediverse is more aggressively opposed to queerphobic bigots I think, so they never get a chance to take root over there, but here on the threadiverse, lots of them fly under the radar of admins that aren't the targets of their bigotry
Yeah theres a few too many genocide apologists hanging around, but (just to spite them) i dont want them to be banned. Its better they stay here and see the light
Yeah if they're banned then they'll go back to their bubble saying they're being silenced, but how can you silence someone who's not contributing to the conversation?... I'm fine with different opinions, but I don't understand people who think the way to convince someone of your viewpoint is hostility. Telling someone to "fuck off" with no reason is just toxic. Once might be a bad mood/state of mind (happens to the best of us), but repeat offenders shouldn't be allowed to keep harassing others.
Pro use of tanks against civilians as in Tiananmen Square in 1989 or Hungary in 1956.
Pro Vladimir Putin
Basically a tankie is any apologists for government violence against civilians -- usually by claiming something like, "those weren't real civilians. That was a color revolution. The government of [authoritarian regime] responded with no more than the necessary amount of force. Western propaganda is making it look more violent than it was in reality."
From Wikipedia
The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
I think everyone I've encountered has been very polite. Well, except the one person who said my crochet project looked like Chewbacca shit. Jokes on them - i didn't buy the wookie yarn; i bought the Groot yarn and they just can't tell the difference.
Yes, I discussed with an andrew tate fan that asked "why do people get angry when I don't respect pronouns of trans people" or something to that effect, a real shit stain but I think he got banned after a few hours
Deleting the thread out from under you is usually bad behaviour, but in the one instance it happened to me the chap was entirely right to do so - he'd left his exif location data in the image. Still, the hedgehog pic was good enough to be posted again, which I did.
One thing about the Fediverse is its a little less "singular" so to speak. People spread out a little more, and you get fewer bigger places where a whole lot of people mingle.
The fascist kids and the tankie kids both have Instances of their own, fairly heavily defederated with a lot of the rest. They're about as pleasant as you'd expect.
I posted a dumb meme about my power going out and my neighbors using the car for AC, and I had some guy screaming at me that I was lying about my power going out because they couldn't find it on the internet, then when I posted a screenshot of my app that shows my power outages, they started screaming that I was a toxic person for not inviting them in my house. When I pointed out the irony of them being toxic, they essentially said it's different when they do it because it's online, but I'm toxic in person, which somehow makes me worse.
Even though it was just a fucking meme in the first place. The power did go out, but no one was dying in the streets or anything.
Oh, and then someone posted a picture in a comment of someone taking a shit on someone else.
There's this one commie user who I always end up getting into an argument with. I don't mind though because they actually seem to be intelligent and I like to hear what they have to say.
There is plenty of rudeness, hostility, and general toxicity and bigotry to go around. But there is also a lot of kindness, thoughtful consideration, and people who want to do the best for the platform and communities forming here.
I feel like the amount of more challenging or unwanted behaviour has gone up just in the time I've been here (hopefully not because of me!). From hardly seeing much of that in the first week or so, to then gradually seeing more and more as presumably more people move over from Reddit.
Be interesting to see how instances and communities respond, and if a more firm line will be drawn.
Absolutely! I think it will be good to keep an eye how users, communities and the mods and admins of different instances respond - because where the line is drawn or isn't, or when people stay silent on important issues happening on their servers or in their communities can speak volumes. (I'm not saying I have seen anything like this yet, not implying anything - just interested to see how things will unfold over time and hopeful for the future!)
So far so good, I see less toxicity than on big social media. I guess there are not enough people yet, I see mostly enthusiasts who are excited that they're building something new. Perhaps because of that the probability of seeing or getting some unpleasant comments is lower. But I'm also quite picky in what posts I read, something related to Elon Musk or Threads doesn't interest me.
Yeah, I got into an exchange the other day where a dozen users made a point of telling me why they support using misogynistic slurs, or how the slur isn't any worse than other impolite words, or how it isn't really misogynistic, or how it's okay when used against evil people.
It was real disappointing, and I'm strongly considering unsubbing the community where the thread took place.
There are toxic instances and users, but the communities have done a good job of staying focused on staying on topic. So not really any people going off on some personal unrelated tangent screaming on their soap box.
Like the game based communities have focused on talking about games. I've usually avoided and filtered communities that tend to get rather argumentative like politics, and I don't expect it to be any different in that department here from reddit.
My reddit experience was nice too because I stuck to my subscribed feeds and filtered lot of stuff out. Argumentative communities will always be that way regardless of where it exists and there is nothing wrong with that because it is on topic for why it exists . It's an easy unsub and block if I want to avoid it.
I just hope some keyword filtering gets built in soon so browsing /c/all is easier to discover new communities I'm interested in without being cluttered by the ones I'm not interested in. Back on reddit my filtering list was useful, since it led to making /r/all a pleasant one where it was mostly filled with dnd or anime or star wars stuff as opposed to the default politics, Twitter/tiktok/Facebook reposts, and fight and gore clips that dominate it by default.
You will find this type of people everywhere on social media.
I use Tildes and is this kind of place people circle jerk how smart and insightful they are using comments. One user had this long threaded comments and I just disagree at the end, he was so pissed. Second time it was with a Redditor coming with the same toxic echo chamber bs bringing to Tildes, my conclusion many redditors are toxic users that will spoil anywhere.
Nah so far so good. But I haven't seen any topic warranting it. Well, not that warranting or not was the reason for it on Reddit, some people are just out to shittalk.
Same. I've seen only a few, but thankfully no one's been a douche to me (yet? Pls don't start lol). I'd imagine there are tons I haven't seen yet. When people moved from reddit, it wasn't exclusively just the good parts that came over. In my experience, though, it's a lot less than in reddit.
So far, I haven’t encountered anything super negative. Everyone on the instance I picked as my “home” has been extremely friendly. Because of that, I usually just check local activity.
I do, occasionally, check all instances. Even what I see is mostly friendly.
I received a couple of "fucking racist" from a person because I said in a post that immigration to rich countries should be controlled i.e. borders cannot just be opened and let everyone move anywhere, or else their economy and social situation could be affected
It’s not really surprising people are having problems with people on lemmy. For the first time in at least a decade we are in the Wild Wild West of a part of the internet. Things haven’t normalized themselves yet so shit is weird and sometimes unpleasant.
This place is the most elitist/arrogant place i seen, even worse than reddit. Especially it could be seen during recent discussion about threads/facebook.
You are confused. What you are doing isn't "dissenting" so much as it's spouting absolute bullocks. You are doing the online equivalent of smearing your shit on the walls because you once heard someone else say that's a valid form of expression.
You keep posting the same ignorant bullshit over and over again, even after people explain just how ignorant your logic really is.
You can only claim "leftist brigading" when you are able to respond to your critics with verifiable facts to support your position. Until then, you are talking absolute bullshit.
Jeez, lots of comments to look through! I'll definitely take a peek some more but a pattern that I've noticed from the few comments I've skimmed through is that it seems like a lot of toxic people do show up, it's just that individual instances are good at removing them.
I also haven't been on Lemmy as much as I was on Reddit before I left, and I'm on a fairly small instance, so I guess that explains the lack of bigotry in my feed haha.