Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state. Every nation needs a common religious ideal and shared moral ...
Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.
Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Congress 11/4/1796.
"Article 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
Does that mean that the general aspects of a treaty become international policy? Like does the treaty of Tripoli act as legal precedent when establishing agreements with Brazil?
Such bullshit. The left isn’t atheist. The left just says you can believe in whatever god you want, or no god at all, just don’t tell us we have to believe in your god.
I’ll tweak your comment just a bit, “until you force me to live by your religious beliefs”. Being forced to believe “their way” is almost irrelevant if they’re already punishing you for not doing so. The end result is the same: You will conform.
Okay, tap the breaks. America is absolutely a nation of Catholic and Protestant migrants, with much of the lower half dominated by Spanish/French missionaries while the northeast was originally settled by English, French, German, and Scandinavian Protestants fleeing the 30 years war, the Napoleonic Wars, the World Wars, and their attendant aftershocks.
De-Christianization in the US is a very new phenomenon, largely stemming from the economic expansion of the post WW2 era and the rapid circulation of professional workers during the Reagan Era. To say we "were never a Christian nation" you really need to explain where all these damned churches came from. Some of them are really old.
Hell, “In god We Trust” only came around in force cause we thought it’d somehow magically keep the “evil communists” away in the 50s.
Yes, but we've been having religious revivals in this country straight back to before the original founding. A big part of our history involves different sects of religious diaspora migrating to the US as refugees fleeing this or that pogrom, from French Huguenots fleeing to Louisiana to West New York Mormons fleeing to Utah to Polish Jews fleeing to Brooklyn to Black Baptists fleeing to Harlem.
The "In God We Trust" thing was the comical low-hanging fruit passed by a 1950s Congress that wanted to conflate the broadly popular idea of Christian religious doctrine with the far more controversial idea of Market Capitalism.
Yeah, the people that came to build european colonies on this land were christian extremists, but that doesnt make America a christian nation... Especially since the very foundation of the nation, a staunch separation of church and state with no law establishing one religion over another, was one of the very beginning principles.
Its right there in the first amendment.
America is a land where religion should have no more presence but between a person and their god, as far as Jefferson was concerned at least, and I'm sure many other founders shared that sentiment.
Nation of christians and christian nation are two very different things, despite using the same words. America has historically been populated by a Christian majority, but from its foundation America has existed with separation of church and state as one of its core principles
Well, that's interesting Josh Hawley, but the whole 'separation of church and state' thing says you're wrong. I'm sorry you don't like it but you're more than welcome to go fuck yourself.
Consider the SCOTUS has now established "deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions" as the test for whether something is constitutional or not... his viewpoint will certainly resonate there.
Yes. It's disgusting. Judges are not supposed to be politicians and these Christofascists use some real pretzel logic interpretations of law to come to their conclusions.
I'm reasonably certain that I can count on one hand the number of times Hawley or his GOP ilk have ever set foot in a church outside of a planned photo op.
Missouri has the lowest life expectancy of any state. Good job there fuckwit, your constituents get to meet Jesus sooner than everyone else. YEE-FUCKING-HAW!
Trump losing in November should just about do it. I don’t see how the GOP donors can keep pumping money into something that’s just not fucking working electorally.
I'm pretty sure Mr. Hawley is just the sort that will appeal to whatever fears and hatred will drive his base to the election polls. Either he'll get betrayed once the Wolf's Lair decides his kind are the next on the purge list, or he'll get executed by the Allies for being a high-ranking officer in a fascist autocracy.
And if he somehow escapes, the Nazi hunters will be on his tail for the next half century.