Lemmy.world active users is tapering off while other servers are gaining serious traction.
Lemmy.world active users is tapering off while other servers are gaining serious traction.
Seems to me the fear of overloading one instance over another will not happen after all.
But I do hope the Threadiverse can hit 500,000 consistent active users by the end of summer.
Give me that hopium guys! 💉
If everyone already here just stays here, I'd be happy. We've already hit a nice place.
Lemmy is not a business, so it doesn't necessarily need a constant influx of new users. Sustainability is based on user experience, not endless growth.
Edit: actually last sentence kind of dumb. Sustainability based on keeping the servers running and user experience.
I imagine any time a given server's quality drops, people will just move to another one. I had login issues for a few days on lemmy.world and started using lemmy.ml.
I think its a good thing, healthy for the ecosystem that there's not only redundancy where one site having a moment doesn't kill everyone's ability to use lemmy, and also provides a clear incentive for individual servers to provide good service.
I haven't fully settled on a "home" instance yet.
I bounce around between Lemmy.world, Beehaw and Kbin the most. As things stabilize with the various software updates and federation between instances gets worked out I will probably settle on one, but I could also see jumping to more niche instances (really hoping a sports-related instance like Fanaticus takes off) being the long term strategy, too.
I created an account on lemmy.world before I'd understood how the Fediverse works. Later on I went and searched for a smaller instance that's better aligned with my interests and whose moderation I was happy with, and I
abandoned lemmy.world(Edit: Bad choice of words here. I still subscribe to communities on lemmy.world; I just stopped using the account I had created there). It had served its purpose well as a landing zone for a Fledditor like me.I think users are jumping over to instances that more fit their personal values. Its why I left lemmy.world and created unilem.org. An instance for no defederation. It might not be for everyone. But i prefer to be able to access everything in one place and do thr moderation/blocking on the user level.
They're probably leaving due to all the problems this instance has been having. I've only just recently been able to log back in after several days of it just refusing to let me in. Although I'm not sure if it's an instance issue or a Lemmy issue since mastodon.world has been working just fine with no issues.
Probably because lemmy.world stops working with half the apps every other day. Some days I can only use it with Thunder, other times only Jeroba, other days it works with every app except Liftoff. There's just no predictable pattern to it and I've found myself just avoiding lemmy.world lately because I don't want to type out a 3 paragraph comment just to find that my app isn't logging in to lemmy.world today.
heh, would you look at that. It won't let me post this comment on Jeroba so I had to log in with a browser. This is fuckin bullshit. I'm going back to sh.itjustworks until this gets fixed.
I'm not surprised. Lemmy.world seemed to be the default, but you're now seeing subs from Reddit coming over with their own instances and others realizing it might be better to make their own instances with blackjack and hookers.
I think a problem for new users is failing to understand how the Fediverse works. It's not something apparent and not something you can expect everyone to understand right off the bat. A user may start out on a heavily loaded instance and get discouraged by poor response. They either figure out they need to find a better instance or base their opinion of the whole on that one experience and give up altogether.
Lemmy.ml and lemmy.world can suffer from heavy user load and bog down at times. That situation can be avoided by selecting an instance that's not too heavily loaded. There's a large number to choose from. It may be necessary to shop around for a good one. In technical terms, find a regionally local instance with low hops, fast ping, and good server response. Also admin settings and quality can be a consideration. I actually signed up on four instances before I found one I really liked.
Lemmy.world had problems since day 1 for me. When you get to a smaller fully updated sever like lemm.ee the service is excellent and you see how good Lemmy is.
as long as you can still subscribe to those communities on other instances it doesn't matter.
That's the intended effect. With the current population on Lemmy/Kbin, most instances are still generalist in nature. People will naturally gravitate to the instance with admins who are best aligned with their personal needs, and I expect badly managed instances to simply turn into Voat and die out, as well as more topic specific instances like MTGzone or startrek website to pop up.
I have an account on lemmy.world, but when I ping it, I'm in the 100ms. I ended up on lemmy.ca where the ping is 3ms average, it makes a big difference in responsiveness.
I kind of think that's how it's supposed to go in my made-up-right-this-second knowledge of the evolution of open source Federated social media sites. Pick the largest/most active/most variety to get your feet wet and make any weird mistakes you need to make in a crowd where you're one of many and sheer speed of posting means you'll be forgotten in like, hours. Then you get comfortable and see if this is a forever-fit or just a okay-right-now fit.
I mean, I hard-bond to my first and pretty much settle immediately for life unless something is seriously awry, but even I made a backup in another one that I mirrored all my favorite communities in and I am seriously getting one more in a smaller, more specialized server. Yes, I do get the point of Federated, you do not need to explain, but here's the thing: intellectually I know that actually, the population of the Fediverse is orders of magnitude smaller than reddit or pretty much any other social media site, but feelings do not agree: Reddit was like a large, slightly hostile country with a lot of states you avoided always but especially between dusk and dawn; the scope of Fediverse is like being on a very small planet in an expanding universe you can watch growing in real time and it never stops. It's great, but there's something very unsettling realizing you're eight servers from home surrounded by kpop or wake up to find you posted in three communities in servers you don't recognize at two AM and if you can get a reputation for that kind of thing.
My ADHD is living the dream, let's go, but I can see how it would throw people a little.
This instance took a "wait and see" stance to Meta. It lost a lot of subreddit modteams when it did, who are now pushing their userbases to the comms they've made in other lemmys by putting up links and sticky posts in their old subreddits.
I have several subreddits where our teams argued internally about it, we were mostly in support of coming here until the instance was soft on Meta.
That's a good thing. Keep the fediverae alive without overemcumbering servers. That's what's so strong about it, we can keep growing without too much costs.
So I have a vague understanding of this.
I tried going to another server when I read something about a lemmy instance turning down FB. I go there and I'm prompted to make yet another account to use that instance.
Does this mean, that I need to make a new log-in per instance, per server just to use it? If so, that's entirely exhausting for me to keep track and I already have an abundance of accounts as is, to where I had to make a document that records every account with every password. We need an internet where it's less of that.
I signed up for TTRPG network, not realizing I also can access Lemmy through it! To be honest I don't know a lot about how the fediverse works at all but so far I like what I'm seeing. Reminds me of reddit circa 2009. In fact, I think this is going to replace my use of Reddit altogether, as it definitely serves the purpose of providing endless content to scroll to.
Well I mean when you have connectivity issues and authentication issues making you unable to log in, I more than get it. It's all well and good though as I hope Lemmy takes off. Growing pains is all!
Probably a combination of things:
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Yes, there were multiple problems in a row that got some people making accounts on other instances, and some people probably stuck with those.
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There were some people who were angry that .world wasn't automatically defederating from Threads and said they were moving to other instances (or already had).
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There were posts about the high .world growth not being a good thing, and more people should sign up on smaller instances. Undoubtedly not everyone who has recently started on Lemmy will like it and stick with it, so if other instances have more of the growth and .world has at least as much attrition, it will look flat or declining relative to others.
Probably other factors too.
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In a lot of ways, I’m happy to hear this. A lot of communities will thrive without the intervention of a central power.
Some communities will become toxic, and it will be up to the individual to figure out whether that’s for them or not- but at least they have a choice.
/r/fatpeoplehate inspired me to lose 135 LB. It wasn’t a bad subreddit.
Granted /r/coonworld /r/chimpout we’re both…Jesus Christ… but at least even the most vile of people had a voice.
Well this is good. It makes much more sense to spread out. I'm glad to see people stick with it and move to another instance instead of just quit altogether.
This sequence of events makes a lot of sense.
First, when leaving Reddit, people are going to gravitate towards one of the larger instances. That's what I personally did. I don't think I'd say I fully understand Lemmy and the Fediverse now, but I've been here long enough to now know more about how the instances thing works.
So second, as the userbase grows and people stay for longer, they learn how this place works. And third, if they dislike moderation or direction or server performance or what have you, they have enough experience to start from another instance or frequent it more and this less.
I expect we'll see other communities start to grow now, while the larger ones stay relatively constant.
I like the big instance in my country, the local section is nice to browse on its own.
That's part of the design, isn't it? Basically so no instance has dominance.
Cus lemmy world is still bugged after the hack...
I'd like to see your data. A nice graph would be especially useful.
Lemmy.world seems broken at the moment...
Haven't seen a really recent update though.
You out there? What's up, man?
The theis here does not really appear to be correct. Comparing MAU here, lemmy.world's MAU is flatter than the entire Lemmy platform's, implying that other platforms are seeing users drop off at a faster rate.
I moved off lemmy.world after looking for a large-ish server in the same country as me, and the difference in load times has been really quite impressive.
Here's your hopium: 💉
(It was actually crack cocaine)
I moved over to lemm.ee when .world was loading really slow. Still here, no reason to go back really.
They’re tamping down on bot accounts I think
Prolly also some people who heard about this fediverse thing and signed up to the most obvious instance and lost interest when it wasn't just like the old site.
I made an alt on a smaller instance when all the trouble with lemmy.world was happening, and I was thinking of making the alt my main, but I'm too lazy to port all my subscribed communities over, so this is still where I'm gonna be. I still browse from my alt sometimes, because the feeds are different.
Who are the best users? The ones that help you troubleshoot for free... 😂 ...reddit mentality
Lemmings.world is open to anyone if y'all want to be on a smaller instance!
Yeah. It's better to have it a bit more spread out anyways.
I've created multiple accounts and tried different instances out. If I am representative of the general population, I thought I had settled on one and then changed my mind like a week ago. A lot of it had to do with lag. If you can't use the thing, you try to use the other thing, and back and forth. I think it's a bit early to draw any conclusions from anything right now. Any software update or hack could turn things around at any moment. But, then again, maybe not. It's a maybe, maybe not situation.
