Manny Coto, The Showrunner Who Tried To Save 'Star Trek: Enterprise,' Dies
Manny Coto, The Showrunner Who Tried To Save 'Star Trek: Enterprise,' Dies
Executive producer who breathed life in series' last season dies of cancer at 62
And he did it brilliantly!
ngl, the show picks up. At first you get those "MURRICA" vibes and recoil like "plz not in star trek". But then... it gets so much better.
In fact, gonna piss off a few of you with this one, but Enterprise is much better than Discovery or even Picard once it picks up.
I find Discovery and Picard to be a departure from the daring production, direction and storytelling that made Star Trek... well, Star Trek. Some might say "that was the point", but was the point also to do the paint-by-numbers Hollywood remake bullshit that's been blasting out of cinemas the passed, oh I don't know... DECADE?!?
Anyways, slow start, but it picks up and adds valiantly to the Star Trek canon...
Also, y dey cancel Prodigy? :( Sadness.
I haven't rewatched any Enterprise except the mirror duology since first run, but I really never got the hate people had for it. I think I always thought it was pretty good. I don't know if I'd say it was better than Voyager overall, I think my main ding was what I think is a stupid idea of a prequel. But take that out of it, and I'd think they were even. I used to think they were tied for the bottom two, but Discovery and Picard have really lowered my opinion of what bad Trek can be, so Voyager and Enterprise look a lot better by comparison lol.
Ngl, Voyager is a banger. Does it drag on here and there? Yes. But my gawd is it good. Like my favourites list is kind of borked to some people, but for me it's:
- DS9
- Voyager
- Next Generation, and
- Enterprise.
Prodigy ends up as an honourable mention, and the rest of the modern shows end up as dishonourable finger pointing. Even "Lower Decks" had me thinking it was just another cash grab, which sucks, because I'm sure the writers and actors are trying their best.
But yet, I'm still counting the months until I've forgotten most of the shows so I can go back AND BINGE THAT SHIT AGAIN!! In fact, chronologically, based on the timeline.
Maybe we could have a schedule here on this community about when we're going to watch which season of which show and have discussions about it, so we can stay in sync :D
I don't think there's anything to be angry about. Enjoying some Star Trek shows over others is a compliment to Star Trek. It means that all the shows aren't just a copy/paste of each other. That there is variety, yet they are all Star Trek. We should not, do not, have to apologize for having favorites. Being pissed at someone for preferring a different Star Trek show than ones favorite(s) is silly, and should never happen. LLAP.
Amen.
It was night and day when he came in. The show went from mediocre and not what I wanted out of Trek prequel show to just outright bad with the Xindi arc, but then came back to be exactly the prequel I wanted. It even fixed earlier seasons with its 3 episode Kir'shara arc that explained why Enterprise Vulcans seemingly became antagonists that eschewed things like mind melds and other familiar aspects of their culture.
Then when they canceled it, they got rid of him and gave us a truly awful finalie that crapped on the show and everything Manno Coto built.
Just skip the last episode. Terra Prime, the penultimate episode is the true ending.
The showrunners themselves admitted that the final episode was an insulting ending.
I don't see myself changing my position on that.
I watched enterprise for the first time last year and was surprised to have it grow on me so much because of some of the hate it gets. By the last season they really seemed to be getting their stride and it was a shame it got canceled then.
yep, me too. Watching S4 I was like "here we go ... just in time". Shame really.
Yeah. It had good episodes, introduced the Romulans as the real villains they should have been, and showed how Earth wasn't at full Federation yet.
I still watch enterprise from time to time. Wished there was more. I'm not really getting into the new Trek, and I'm extremely not getting into paying for another streaming service, but that's a different story. Discovery and the constant crying was so annoying I decided to give up on the other stuff. It had really nice moments, but overall it was just meh.
Strange New Worlds is like Old Trek. Highly suggest it even if you have to sail the virtual seas to get it.
It's closer to Old Trek. But in the last episode of S1
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where they take original TOS dialog for parts and mix it with modern dialog - man you really see the difference. Love it or hate it, the TOS dialog feels a lot more martial and IMO fits way better with having ranks on a ship.
There's good stuff in it, but they also seem to really have a problem making any non-quippy character, to the extent that I actually think it affects characterization. To that end, Ortegas still
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isn't that well fleshed out IMHO even with the last episode being 1/3 about her. I think earlier Trek played tricks to make characters feel more different, but those worked.
Spock is certainly "in between" The Cage and TOS, but I think they're going to have to re-do something like Kohlinar to explain his change in the last episode of SNW.
It's reasonably good, but significantly different too.
A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!I'll check out a trailer. Thanks!
I also suggest Strange New Worlds. It’s the best Trek since TNG (imo). There are certainly some silly parts and some episodes do lean a little more towards comedy then I’d like in my Trek, but even still. It’s good Trek.
It's certainly the best of the live action modern Treks. Lower Decks also works surprisingly well.