What I find particularly interesting is that the Confederacy only existed for 4 years, meaning to run around with an Obama flag would more historically relevant than this shit.
I also like how people do it in Northern states. I live in Indiana and I see the Stars and Bars all the time. Sometimes with the Indiana state flag. The fools don't even know what side we were on.
What I find particularly interesting is that the Confederacy only existed for 4 years, meaning to run around with an Obama flag would more historically relevant than this shit.
“Historically relevant” or “historically significant” is really tricky thing to judge sometimes. While Obama’s 2 terms as president meant he was in charge for 8 years vs the Confederacy’s 4, I believe the Confederacy and the US Civil War they caused was more historically relevant than Obama’s 8 years as president.
There’s a whole lot of nasty from the war and immediate fall out we’re seeing feeling today.
one could argue that the prelude to the civil war started before independence, since the Quakers were anti-slavery. even disregarding that, fighting was occuring over slavery for decades prior to the formation of the Confederacy - the famous bit at the tail end of that, "bleeding Kansas", occured in the early 1850s.
a mere 4 or 8 year length of time is largely inconsequential.
Even the reddest counties in the reddest states vote 10% blue. Most red states have strong pockets of blue in cities. (Nashville, Charleston, pretty much all of south Florida). Many southern states are purple or even blue! Georgia has two blue senators and a governor! Virginia has two blue senators and a red governor. North Carolina is up there too.
I'm very afraid for those people if the fascist lunatics get more control. I know you are sort of joking that we can't just abandon them to that fate.
Also selfishly: do we really want the Christian Taliban to create an Afghanistan with y'all Quida next door to us? That wouldn't end well.
One problem: You will create a country with third world mentality on religion, but with first world weapons. They'll immediately start a holy war against the north, and if they succeed, the rest of the world.
I'd love to see their declarations for seceding this time. Last time it was universally about slavery, I'm sure this time it will be wokeness or cheeks absent from Trump's rear
It wasn't even used as the actual flag of the Confederacy. This version of the flag is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which has sort of just come to represent the whole Confederacy now. The actual flag that was used by the Confederacy actually had quite a bit more white on it, which in the eyes of some at the time understood it to represent the "White race" (from Wikipedia):
On April 23, 1863, the Savannah Morning News editor William Tappan Thompson, with assistance from William Ross Postell, a Confederate blockade runner, published an editorial championing a design featuring the battle flag on a white background he referred to later as "The White Man's Flag," a name which never caught on. In explaining the white background of his design, Thompson wrote, "As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause."
Their flag actually went through three versions between 1861–1865 (each with multiple variations), so they really didn't have their shit together over the course of those 4 years even.
It was the flag of the confederacy that lost the civil war, but today it's the flag for white supremacist bigots and no more. That is all that it means.
Read a real book, like BATTLECRY OF FREEDOM, by McPherson.
Also on that same era the steam engine train, telegraph and germ theory came to be. It was as radicalizing then as the computer is now.
The south based their economy on aristocracy and hierarchy and added the worst sort of slavery the world had seen (hereditary, based on skin color).
My ancestors died fighting for the Union, but I have to admit a tiny bit of me has a soft spot for that flag only because I liked the Dukes of Hazzard when I was little.