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dude shut up im gonna get them to give us shit then we can nuke them

It also sucks to live in the US. A lot of Americans repeat the same "best country on Earth" line without ever having left or only having been out of country as a soldier. You know what other countries make children do some kind of allegiance pledge? North Korea... China has something similar. Good luck naming another one. Oh yeah, and that salute? Go google the "Bellamy Salute." My dad was forced to do that shit in the 50's like they were still doing that shit after the Nazis lost the war.

I left after I got shot by a fascist terrorist for protesting a Nazi collaborating transphobe. A few months before I left there was a shoot out with the cops across the street. I lived in the nice neighborhood. The US is fucked. If you're a cis white man, you still have opportunities. If you're not, you probably live in fear every day. The average income is higher than most of the world, but the income disparity is like the developing world. There are massive houseless camps because rents keep going up. Fascists regularly talk about rounding up houseless people and murdering them.

The US is rapidly becoming like Brazil or Costa Rica, where rich people drive around in armored SUVs and poor people get run over by those SUVs and shot. Some people still have opportunities, but a lot of people are legitimately fleeing for their lives and should be accepted as refugees. The fact that countries issue travel warnings for their citizens to avoid parts of the US should give you a hint that things are not OK. And migration among middle and upper class folks is reversing. Europeans and Canadians used to want to come to the US, now they're going back and Americans are moving out.

The American dream is dead for most people. It's been dead for almost everyone born after gen X for a long time. People used to come to the US for a better life, now they're leaving it. The only people who want to be in the US are people escaping climate crisis and political instability (often created by the US), people who are well enough off to take advantage of the collapse, and people who still believe the propaganda.

I don't expect the US to still exist in 20 or maybe even 10 years. This is just the beginning. I just wish those who can't escape didn't have to suffer though what's happening now.

The Canadian government is so nice but fucking complicit in some bullshit. Sure our society isn't as fucked as the US but we shouldn't be free from criticism either. Our track record on indigenous issues is shameful.

That's an extremely wild take, and one I'm surprised to see voted highly.

While I don't think America is a bad place to live, you definitely don't have the best reputation across the world when it comes to your standard of living. You have to pay obscene amounts for healthcare, your food safety standards are below other countries, your school system is known not for education but for target practice, you have religious nutjobs everywhere, you worship a constitution that basically every other country has, and you have a huge wealth divide.

The latter is why immigration numbers are high. America is a very hard country to migrate to, but people will try because for many you can earn enough in a few years in the US to retire in your home country.

Or there is valid criticism of the US and Texas. Source born and raised in the lone star.

Ah, so it must be the American majority calling for nuking the USA on hexbear pages. Makes perfect sense.

Yeah, buy a bullet proof vest if you're staying. I decided to stay and fight after Trump got elected and I got shot. A lot of people got shot, some for just being brown or queer. They will bring the violence to you and if you try to stop them from hurting other people, they will try to kill you. That's their scam. It's always been abuse others and claim the victim, all the way back to Hitler.

I wish you the best of luck. The Pacific Northwest would be a wonderful place if it wasn't part of the US. It was incredibly hard to leave, but there's absolutely no way I could stay. I hope you win the fight. I'd love to come back some day if it's ever worth coming back to.

You had me until the xenophobic bullshit last sentence.

Actually, I started to suspect something was off when you began talking about declining birth rates since that's a common talking point amongst replacement theory believers and other racists, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt until you confirmed your bigotry at the end.

We have enough rightwing dipshits already. Can confirm that we would not like you and rather take some based refugees who just want to live their lives.

I both want to get as many people out as possible and also see people stay and fix it. The problem is that fixing the US will take several years after it starts, and there's no way it starts until it totally collapses, IMHO... At least the way it's going.

Edit: Also, you know, fuck the border. Borders are fundamentally racist and stupid, so the whole concept of any person being illegal is just fucking dumb.

Legitimate question: what is the concern with declining birth rate? Im no expert but it seems like the world currently has way more people than it ever had before and even in specific developed nations those nations were arguably doing just fine 50 years ago when they had lower populations too. What is the risk here?

Thanks, we’re good, don’t need any more children nor natalist bs.

If Americans with useful skills applied for citizenship they would absolutely get it.

Oh no, we don't want you. Stay in America, fix your own shit.

Europe has fast ageing societies because our people live long and prosperous lives.

The only reason we get energy from unstable regions is because the US makes them unstable for their own profit.

The EU has been projecting power towards plenty of international companies to force them to do whatever we deem necessary, all in favour of the consumer. And they are abiding, because of the EU's power.

The EU is proof the world does not need big companies. So I don't know why you are licking their boots as if they were a good thing. We need less big companies, not more.

In the EU you need a coherent start up plan before you are let loose on the market. None of this fuelled by hopes and dreams. Our start ups may be fewer, but they are more robust.

And I will tell you more about how you have an entire political party about to elect a dictator. How your elite have brainwashed tons of you into thinking you don't need to be healthy or have the power of a union. How school shootings are normalised and how bad you guys don't want educated people. But sure, keep destroying the planet. It is not like we all live there.

You pointing out some of the worst thing about the US does not prevent us to bring it up or invalidate the argument.

Because we are right in doing so...

Laughs in paid sick leave, parental leave and other employment rights instead then?

And food standards.

You forgot moon landing

Really, last? For me it'd probably be Antarctica.

None of your nations have the ability to project power at scale.

Why is that important to literally anything apart from international penis measuring competitions?

Ok usual the American unit system jokes are pretty stale, but that was smooth af

They can't legally secede, the case law is clear, that's why we need to kick them out instead.