Hobson's Choice
Hobson's Choice
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Nah, voting at least does something. A very tiny bit of something, the smallest possible amount in fact, but it's more than nothing, which makes it preferable to praying. Don't stop voting if you're able to, that's exactly what republicans want, hence all their attempts to make voting as hard and inaccessible as possible. Or if you're not gonna vote, at the very very least do some form of direct action, like protests or mutual aid or something
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While voting does not, and has not historically brought about significant, necessary change, it might get you a small victory before the moderates claim total victory (see the American civil rights movement).
Being anti-electoral without advocating other options for political action in a climate that emphasizes voting as the method of political action has a political nihilism to it thats kinda shitty. I don’t think the answer to good political mobilization is screaming from the hilltops that voting is pacification and therefore you should toss out voting as political action, even if you are right about voting having a pacifying effect, and even if the impacts of voting are frequently minimal.
Even if the impact is insignificant, you should still vote. Having a diverse set of tools is one of the things that have gotten big successes in the past.
Ultimately, direct action gets the goods. The big victories of the civil rights movement came directly from political action, not voting. But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote.
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By all means vote. Especially for local issues. But, like you said, change on the national level only occurs through direct action. People should be aware that voting isn’t enough. You need to join an organization, a movement.
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I agree with you, I just think this meme is sending the wrong message
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Incorrect
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Our results suggest that voters may struggle to truly hold government coalitions accountable, as objective performance metrics appear to be largely out of the immediate control of political coalitions.
The science says otherwise.
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Yeah I didn't vote while living in battle ground state in 2016, and nothing of consequence occurred because of the inaction from people like me.
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Similarly, I voted third party and our state is no longer purple. It’s just a sea of loud fascists and we can’t have anything good.
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I'm sure the people that agree with this aren't up voting the post, or down voting comments they disagree with, like hypocrites.
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isn't the impotence of Lemmy voting there purest expression of voting?
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voting alone doesn't change shit and I think people miss that point heavily. voting blue doesn't fix the country, no shit no one is saying that, but it does make it a whole lot easier to make change when the president is just a regular POS and not a despotic dictator
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Nice try.
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Voting is the bare minimum. You want real change do MORE, not LESS. What a shit take. "it isnt working so lets give up"
And gtfo with your "what we need is a revolution" shit, if that's how you feel go start one, or accept that you not voting is you giving up, because what real concrete steps are you taking besides not voting, and shitposting about it.
2 words- Electoral College
Edit: direct action : action that seeks to achieve an end directly and by the most immediately effective means (such as a boycott or strike)
Two words and no thought.
In other words: "We refuse to represent you, but now it's your fault."
Sort of, yes. It is our fault for not being more active in politics. But its not like its directly our doing, its more that our inaction simply makes it worse, and acting like the people who are actually trying to improve things are big dumb idiots while doing even less than they are is a pretty shit take.
I will say politics is a corrupt mess. Voting doesn't do a lot, but acting like doing nothing is better is just stupid.