At The Hague, Israel Mounted a Defense Based in an Alternate Reality
At The Hague, Israel Mounted a Defense Based in an Alternate Reality

At The Hague, Israel Mounted a Defense Based in an Alternate Reality

At The Hague, Israel Mounted a Defense Based in an Alternate Reality
At The Hague, Israel Mounted a Defense Based in an Alternate Reality
This might work. Compared to criticism of Apartheid, you can't criticize the Israeli government. If you do you're an antisemite that supports terrorism.
As BadEmpanada put it: "They're trying to give the judges an out to throw the case on ideological lines before it even starts, they're not arguing the facts because if they did they would lose badly" Basically all they did was gesture to any countries built on genocide that "hey if this case is allowed to go to trial we'll lose and it will set precedent which will come after you next" giving them plausible deniability to stop the trial on a technicality. See they're not voting FOR genocide, they're voting AGAINST the trial.
Basically they're banking on the fact that enough nations are as fascist and corrupt enough as to stop the whole thing before the facts are put on the table, in which case they instantly lose because they literally bragged that they were intentionally doing a genocide. It's in the public record, completely indisputable. They thought they were untouchable and smugly ran their mouths thousands of times, now it's catching up to them.
"South Africa is Hamas, South Africa did not give Israel a chance to meet up and chat about Gaza before suing for genocide, and actually the Israel Defense Forces is the most moral entity on Earth."
Writing such polemic bullshit would be low for an opinion pice, but actually trying to pass this off as journalism devaluates any actual argument they are trying to make.
Why are people so afraid of actually arguing and dicussing facts and always resorting to parroting polarising bullshit that is an insult for journalism?
Oh, yeah. I forgot. Because tribalism feels good and thinking can be exhausting...
Wow, your quote is taken entirely out of context. Not even sure what you're point is supposed to be...
That's a direct quote representing the start of a piece of trash that isn't even meeting basic standards of an opinion piece but isn't even one. So what other context is there?
It was preceded by an "Isreal's arguments were weak, South Afirca's are great!!!!"-statement (no details, reasons or anything given, because he's seemingly not a journalist but a cheerleader for his team) and followed by:
"Aware of the global audience, Israel also sought to reinforce its claims of righteousness and self-defense in fighting the war in Gaza."
So after a bullshit opinion without any agument, then some polemics we now escalate to questioning Isreal's right to defend against a terror attack (guess that happens when you are a Hamas fanboy...).
Is that enough context? Or should we continue up to one of the highlights of this piece of bullshit were all arguments of Israel's lawyers were called "supreme gaslighting"?
Or no, let's read until the end, where after pages and pages of listing Isreal's arguments (at one point calling the "a litany" even...) the author concludes that somewhow "during its presentation before the court, Israel made no arguments..."?
Yeah... I probably missed all context when I described it as "polarising bullshit and an insult to journalism". Oh, wait... No, that's actually a proper description of the whole article, not just that allegedly out-of-context quote.
And here's Habeck pretending that Israel isn't committing a genocide. German regime is showing its true colors for all the world to see.
That's a personal statement, not an official one. And not even of the foreign minister or chancellor, but of the one for economy and climate change.
The official position of Germany is that statements done by Ben-Gvir etc. regarding "depopulating Gaza" are unacceptable, which shouldn't be too surprising that's been the German position regarding Israeli settlements etc. for aeons. Say what you want about our foreign policy but it's darn consistent.
Regarding the state calling what Israel is doing genocide: In my estimation, they're waiting for the ICJ judgement as it's a juridical, not political, matter. What is political is Germany being the good cop in regards to Israel, someone else needs to be the bad cop, South Africa is perfectly willing to do that, so what exactly are you complaining about.
Official Statement by Germany:
Den nun vor dem Internationalen Gerichtshof gegen Israel erhobenen Vorwurf des Völkermords weist die Bundesregierung aber entschieden und ausdrücklich zurück. Dieser Vorwurf entbehrt jeder Grundlage.
Translation:
The German government firmly and explicitly rejects the allegation of genocide, brought before the ICJ against Israel. This allegation is completely baseless.
Also:
Die Bundesregierung intendiert, in der Hauptverhandlung als Drittpartei zu intervenieren.
The German federal government intends to intervene during the main trial as a third party.
So, the official line is the same as what Habeck said in the clip. They're also not waiting for a judgement, but supporting Israel directly before the court.
From the comfort of my home in the States, Israel’s response to being attacked is disproportionate af and is galvanizing the world against it. Which isn’t great for a nation surrounded by enemies. They need friends and sooner or later even for the US this will be beyond the pale.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
While Israel’s lawyers made legal arguments that the genocide charges leveled against it are invalid, their primary strategy was to appeal to the court on jurisdictional and procedural matters, hoping that they could form the basis for the panel of international judges to dismiss South Africa’s case.
Israel’s representative Tal Becker opened his government’s rebuttal by telling the judges at the ICJ that South Africa’s case “profoundly distorted the factual and legal picture,” claiming it sought to erase Jewish history.
Becker neglected to mention the fact that Netanyahu himself long advocated for Hamas to retain power in Gaza and worked to ensure the flow of money to the group from Qatar continued over the years, believing it to be the best strategy to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Shaw called this characterization as “outrageous” and said the only relevant historical “context” were the events of October 7, which he termed “the real genocide in this situation.” Given the civilian death toll caused by Israel in Gaza — upward of 23,000 as of this week — it was a stunning statement.
Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.” Shaw argued there was “no need here for a theological discussion.” South Africa, he charged, took Netanyahu’s words out of context and failed to include the portion of his statement where he emphasized that the IDF was the “most moral army in the world” and “does everything to avoid harming the uninvolved.” The implication of Shaw’s argument is that Netanyahu’s platitudes about the nobility of the IDF somehow nullified the significance of invoking a violent biblical edict to describe a military operation against people Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant described as “human animals.”
South Africa, in its argument on Thursday, contended that by refusing to cease its operations, Israel was ensuring that the pile of Palestinian corpses would continue to grow alongside the amputations of limbs without anesthesia and babies dying of treatable illnesses.
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What does anyone expect either side to do here?
That's easy. Stop occupying Palestine. That's been Palestinians' demand for more than 50 years. The idea that this conflict is hopeless is embedded in the notion that the status quo needs to stay, which tends to ignore the fact that the status quo puts Palestinians in an open-air concentration camp and a bunch of Bantustans.
Ya. This only ends one of two ways, either Israel succeeds in killing /displacing the people of Gaza (West Bank and Golem Heights next) and fills it with people loyal to them, or they stop the occupation. Terrorist groups don't do well in stable, prosperous nations. If they really want Hamas and groups like them gone forever, they will have to take the winds out of their sails by letting the Palestinians have a real government with real control over itself. Even if they meet their stated goal of "destroying Hamas", it (or another similar but even more extreme) group will take over.
Those were some very weak arguments by Israel. It is hard to see 1,700 as genocide and 23,000, ~10k being children, as "oopsies" or necessary and not genocide.