Here’s The Tape of Roger Stone Discussing Assassination of Democrats — Which He Denied Ever Doing
Here’s The Tape of Roger Stone Discussing Assassination of Democrats — Which He Denied Ever Doing
Roger Stone contested our reporting regarding comments he made floating the assassination of Eric Swalwell and Jerry Nadler. Mediaite is now publishing the tape.
He said they used AI to fake it. I don’t know if they did or not, but I feel like that’s going to be the new, “someone hacked my phone and posted that,” any time someone gets caught saying something dumb.
I've been thinking about that lately. Of course they'll muddy the waters. Trumps 'fake news' bullshit already has, where he acts like major news organizations just wholesale make up stories. The result of deep fakes will be what we already have, but worse, where MAGA types believe anything negative about Democrats, no matter how ridiculous it seems under analysis, and refuse to believe anything negative about Republicans, saying it's 'fake'.
The thing is AI voices are only good enough to trick most listeners. If you know what to listen for, or can dissect the audio professionally, it's trivial to fact check.
There has always been image/audio doctoring. Any reputable news source can reasonably identify these things.
The thing is, character matters. I have no doubt Roger Stone is capable of saying those things. Zero doubt.
If someone did this with, say Obama, would anyone believe it?
Roger Stone has also previously claimed deepfakes for things he was recorded saying on video from a professional documentary crew: https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-stone-claims-video-of-him-calling-for-violence-are-deep-fake-videos
He already cried wolf.
"But it was AI" is the new talking point for the chucklefucks. Pathetic.
I have no problem believing Roger Stone advocated for assassinating two members of Congress, which is also why this is the type of situation where releasing deepfakes would be most effective.
So yeah, it's absolutely plausible this was AI generated, but Roger Stone isn't someone I feel deserves the benefit of the doubt.
The worst part of the world today is that is a plausible denial. But, like other forms of evidence, if it's not proof positive but it is correct, it may be a strong lead to other information, and at best an invitation for witness testimony. (Not to imply that testimony is reliable)
And in this particular case, mediaite is in communication with the person that recorded this. In addition, they indicated that there were several other instances of Roger Stone attempting to get this done. Could he even be charged for this? I would hope so, especially if he actually took some steps to getting it done.
Let's be real Republicans haven't faced consequences for what would get Dems guantanemo for a long time now. So it's all pretty moot.
The Republican party is a threat to the US. Trump is a traitor. The people who can't understand that at this point have a mental illness. Fuck the corrupt Democrats that enable them through their policies and actions.
Fuck the corrupt Democrats that enable them through their policies and actions.
Like what?
I assume that the user that you are responding to was probably referring to Manchin, Sinema, and the various old school Democrats that engage in insider trading and the like and refuse to fix such issues in our laws.
In addition to the more extreme examples like Manchin and Sinema who exist as spoiler votes, the majority of the Democratic party also enable the Republican party by constant attempts to compromise resulting in a rightward Overton window shift. Because Democratic politicians refuse to confront Republicans when the latter refuse to engage in good faith arguments, agreements, and debates.
Outside of that, they also tend not use what power they have to do good. Like how Roe v Wade was never codified, even during times when Dems had control of the house and senate.
Did you just blame the treason for the Republican party and its supporters on the Democrats? Jesus fucking christ maybe blame the actual traitors? The Democrats could do more, sure, but that's like blaming the US for not getting WW2 earlier for all the atrocities of the nazis.
I won’t blame the US for nazis, except Lindbergh and the other US nazis.
They did blame the actual traitors. Multiple people can be guilty of different levels of ill. Republicans being disgusting doesn't magically make Democrats good, just the lesser of two evils. Notice how "lesser evil" is still evil.
That's important to remember, especially if Trump doesn't win.
Because the only thing worse than a ratfuck fascist is a ratfuck liberal who pretends to be a good person while joyfully aiding the slide into fascism behind their backs
Why are you acting like the US wasn’t a bastion of eugenics and Nazi ideology and was dangerously close to joining the Axis? If Japan didn’t lose their fucking minds and drag Hitler into their war, the US was happy to stay out and keep cleansing their own borders.
What do you think happened to the properties, businesses, and bank accounts of all those nisei they put in camps?
No, I didn't.
It's like Republicans are the ones doing a school shooting, and Democrats are the Uvalde cops twiddling their thumbs outside the school.
Spot on, old chap
So why hasn’t he been arrested?l already? Get on with it. If it was you or me saying this crap, we’d be in prison.
This guy should be rotting in prison.
Dude has a tattoo of Richard Nixon.
he admired Nixon's resilience and that the tattoo was a daily reminder that "when you get knocked down, when things don't go your way, when you're defeated, you got to get up and fight again. It's simply that."
Of course he would talk about it, absolutely would do it too.
A daily reminder that he can't see? Or is it a reminder to whoever is fucking him?
WHY ARE THERE ALWAYS TAPES?
😂
In this case, it seems he was boldly talking about assassinating Democratic congressman in a public restaurant and someone recorded him.
There's usually not tapes. But when there are, they're more likely to be publicly known.
The amount of shit he's said (in private, at a restaurant like here, etc) that's as bad or way way worse is probably 1000x more than what's publicly known. But in this case someone happened to record it, so it got some press.
The irony of censoring the word fuck on that shirt.
Yeah why censor "fuck" but not "Trump"?
So what's the line for conspiracy to X crimes again?
Whoa, are you telling me that the hateful evil villain guy lied?
It's legal to do this! If it wasn't Roger Stone would be in jail!
What I find interesting is that this is not being discussed much more prominently. A good friend of donnie's was talking - to a cop - about murdering Democrats. And not only are the cop and Stone not in prison, but it seems this story has already come and gone.
Even more interesting: I find no mention of this anywhere on the Denver Post, by the way....an outlet accused by the unhinged of being "liberal" all the time. And yet - they constantly skip over stories that put Republicans in a bad light.
Can we stop calling these "tape" and start calling them "recording", please?
Does the fact they are called the Panama Papers instead of the Panama Documents similarly grind your gears?