Undead Zombies? No. I'm no virologist, but I've read about a Rabies variety, or certain fungal infections. Fiction-wise, World War Z, or 28 Days type "zombies", where the body is very much functioning, but the brain has been hijacked...
Which in theory with any sort of living zombie all you’d need to do is wait out the zombies for a few weeks/months while they inevitably starve to death.
You couldn't wait them out...
They wouldn't just eat people, they'd eat anything. Lots of chance for cross species transmission which would come back to humans later. It wouldn't just be human to human transmission.
If we get viral zombies, that'd just be something we have to always deal with a little bit for centuries.
Fuck, imagine the balls to go camping knowing some crazy feral human that had been living in the woods for either days or years might be attracted to your fire.
Some antivaxxer CrossFit club gets a breakout and the whole neighborhood is fucked.
Yeah, but there is always a timer on those, at the end of which the body is gonna be useless, and it's not long.
We call them Republicans here in the US
AfDler in Germany
the type for brain hijacking definately, as theres a fungus that brainhijacks ants.
the type that that works on dead people, likely not. all viruses and stuff survive by trying to keep their host alive. the ones that kill their host die off quick.
By definition? No. Don’t listen to any of these, “exceptions.” You asked a direct question and the direct answer is no.
I've seen a living zombie hoard before, at a dump in Nicaragua where they lived. I was told they got high on sniffing shoe glue, which literally causes the brain to decay while they're still "alive," but they just shambled around in a big mob, seemingly aimlessly, with glue smeared under their noses.
No, until yes.
Atypical rabies I would say would be pretty close. Good thing rabies is pretty rare.
Thanks Michael Scott!
It's all about the optics.
Without the giant check and medical professional presenting it, no one would even know Meredith got hit by a car
I don't know if there's video anywhere of a person who had rabies, but I imagine it wouldn't be that different from zombie movies, or the rage virus.
Which version? If all you need is an uncoordinated, dopey person, I'm right here. /s
If undeath is required, no. It's not even a concept that makes much sense without mind-body dualism, which is all but ruled out scientifically.
If this stuff sarts infecting humans yes. .
As with other versions, it's not impossible but the zombie is unlikely to he viable more than a couple weeks, as decomposition doesn't stop.
The closest that I know of that's known and possible is with a fungus. Possibly a parasite, but probably fungal.
Some parasites, especially those that infect insects, can cause the host to go crazy, for lack of a better word, and "infect" others through bodily fluid transfer. Fungal is similar; IMO, fungal would be my guess since to me, given how large fungal networks and organisms can be, it would be the most likely candidate to adapt to the size and scale required to control a human.
However, it is unlikely. There's a pretty slim margin between being infectious enough to be viable and so infectious the host dies before there can be any useful progression of the disease. It's just a very fine line.
Depending on what version of zombies you're thinking of, it may be more, or less zombie-like. In the case of the walking dead? No. Not really possible. Maybe in a million years, caused by nano scale machines, where the machines more or less use your corpse as meat armor... But that's a very long way from becoming a reality. The "real zombies would be more like possessed living people, still vulnerable to the same dangers as other living humans. If you shoot them, they will die. They wouldn't be super strong, maybe mildly more strong than they were when they were living, simply based on the fact that we tend to hold ourselves back a bit when it comes to our strength because we want to avoid damaging ourselves too much during the effort.... "Zombies" wouldn't have those concerns so they may be stronger, but not so significantly that it would matter all that much.
Skin appearance may be affected due to the infection and may cause the flesh to appear sticky.
Since most higher brain functions would be suppressed, tactics and planning would not be possible, or at least, extremely limited, and most advanced skills would also be unavailable (working tools or machinery). There would also be very little in terms of language skills, if any.
Since the infected would have the primary goal of spreading the infection, they likely wouldn't eat or sustain themselves in any meaningful way, leading to death in a matter of days, maybe a week or so, at most. Zombies would probably smell of human excrement, since the infected wouldn't be concerned about where they relieve themselves and likely just piss or shit right in their pants as the need arises.
TL:DR: they would be far shorter lived and far less dangerous than seen on TV but it's possible that a parasite or fungus could invoke such tenancies
Yes, but not quite like the movies.
There is a parasite (I forget the name) that, when it infects a person (or a warm-blooded animal) starts living off the host and storing energy in sacs around the infection point. It often presents itself as tumours, as the sacs can get quite large. Between the sacs there is a voltage difference, it's stored as chemical energy (like a battery with one side less electrons to allow for electron flow).
In severe cases, the parasite has had long enough to grow it's own nerve pathways through the body that can be used like wires. At that point, the tumours are really advanced and enlarged and will usually kill the victim, if not before.
In an effort to spread itself to the next host, the parasite uses the stored chemical energy to activate muscles in the dead host and move the body around to find another host to infect. That's where the whole 'eating flesh' thing in the movies come from, but it's actually the parasite trying to break the skin and be able to jump to a new victim.
In reality, this stage only lasts a few hours but as long as the muscles haven't deteriorated too much, it can be any 'few hours' movement within a couple days of death if the parasite is unable to immediately reinfect and instead waits for a period of time.
Maybe it's microsporidia of some kind. Those can course Microsporidiosis and the infections look kinda like you described.
but I can't find any information about you becoming a zombie if you get the disease.
Yes, biologically speaking there is a fungus that can control and takeover ants body.
Except that fungus can’t live in high temperatures that are inside a human body… at least, not ones we know about right now…
Well, the post didn't specify "human" zombies so at least it is true that ant zombies exist
Not that great a post, huh?
If we set aside Hollywood for a moment to talk about something unexpected... this is a completely serious and rather interesting subject of study:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
My position on the matter is that it is quite easy to design systems that are to some degree "intelligent" (for most definitions of intelligence), without possessing qualia (consciousness, subjective experience). Several such systems exist, and you have probably heard of them!
Moreover, I think many natural persons can be intelligent without being conscious, at least sometimes. I think many people have this experience when working on difficult problems, e.g. programming.
For Hollywood-style zombies? I would start with chemistry rather than biology. There are many substances that can alter our mood, body control, aggression, and consciousness. Find a mix that creates the effect you want, and create an implant (or make it an addictive drug mixture). Probably the result would be less consistent than hollywood-style zombies. It would not be contagious though.
Or if sci-fi, insert genes into a living person that encodes a system to internally synthesize the drug mix.
Edit: Something that makes most people into shuffling drones? Increases aggression? Spreads like a disease? A cynical answer would be that we have invented that already. We call it "capital".
I don't think rabies would create the zombie like behaviour in humans even with a bunch of mutation. Rabies causes fear and confusion, many animals will bite when they are afraid because that's how they fight, but humans typically not bite as a weapon, we use our hands...
Maybe it would be some kind of fungi mutation that when it infects the nervous system and mess with GABA (gamma aminobutyric acid) and some other stuff... This can change aggressive behaviour in humans, and even though I am not an expert and don't understand the mechanisms beyond superficial level, I wouldn't find it strange if some fungi evolved to make humans feral.
Transmission would probably be through the skin or some other vector of infection that isn't a bite.
As for zombies not attacking each other... It's possible that there would be a pheromone that zombies release that make them less aggressive towards each other... But I'd imagine this would take time before this variabt pops off. If I were to write a book with this premise, humans would artificially produce this pheromone to reduce their risk of being attacked by zombies.
With global temperatures rising, it's reasonable to expect a lot more fungal infections to become the biggest global health concern. Fungi would evolve to survive in human body temperatures faster than we can develop anti-fungal drugs.
I'm thinking less hoards of zombies and more people gradually becoming more aggressive and becoming feral maybe months after initial exposure to the fungi... People becoming terrified of being around other people, and paranoid. Imagine you've had a heated argument with someone and you don't know if it means they are infected, or maybe you are infected. Imagine someone convinced that someone is infected and decides to shoot them... This would be a psychological horror story I would love to read.
Scopolamine is a truth drug that renders people highly suggestive, unable to lie, and unable to lay down memories whilst under its influence.
Close to zombified.
Has been used in Colombia and South America.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/devils-breath-scopolamine-burundanga
a truth drug
Lol 🙄
Turned out to be not a particularly efficacious truth drug, but it is where the term 'truth serum' originated from.
I thought this was debunked as fear mongering?
70 years ago... But imagine what they can do with modern technology https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra
Yes they are. Capitalism brain-rot has infected most of US workforce today.
The US military has a plan (namely CONOP 888) to defend against zombies. Also here is the Wikipedia page if you don't want to read the actual plan.
Also because this was a serious question I shall note that zombies (at least the traditional kind) does not exist. Plan 888 was exclusively used for training purposes and was not intended as an actual defence plan.
Yes, they are called "republicans".
sure, but ones immune to bullets? nope, theyd just be rotting flesh
Braindead people not caring about the wellbeing of others or themselves?
Sounds like the individuals you'll find at black Friday sales.
/s but also that's likely the closest you'll get to an actual Zombie invasion.
Zombies are a real thing, Haitians would use toxins on you to trigger your death response making you genuinely convinced you were dead. That signal is so primal that all of your logical reasoning would be completely overridden with a deeply rooted delusion that you are in fact dead. It's kind of like how you can spray ants with their death chemical and they will walk as if they're fatally injured towards the ant graveyard.
Define "zombie".
IF "zombie" means a hominid with reactions, but no considered-reasoning,
THEN all sorts of factions are manufacturing such right now, globally, in order that THEIR ideology/prejudice addiction gain supremacism, exterminating considered-reasoning AND all other factions.
The Great Filter.
All the different political/religious/cultural/ideological factions are just "makeup" on top of that fundamental difference.
Will Kahneman System-1 ( animal-reaction, programmed-reaction, conditioned-reaction, etc ) displace Kahneman System-2 from authority/power enough that the entire planet can be butchered & laid-waste?
Toss a coin.
It isn't looking good for this world.
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God, but you can waffle.
Real "life"?
The most likely zombie to exist are from diseases and/or viruses. Zombie deer virus exists which makes deer irrational and fearless but rarely violent, rabies is one of the oldest viruses and still can't be cured once symptoms show and cause violence in animals but not humans, and viruses are always evolving and changing, so the possibility isn't entirely out of the question, but it shouldn't be anything to worry about.
I could imagine a disease turn people delusional and aggressive. What's always seemed unrealistic to me was the premise of zombies being chill around each other and/or animals, but going bonkers when they see an uninfected person.
Also, these people would be done in by cold wheather, injuries, lack of food and water rather quickly, so they likely wouldn't pose the threat they do in movies.
