Why was Cyberpunk not even a finalist? They released a massive update this year and have pretty much fixed the game and added lots of new content through the DLC.
The problem with the Steam Awards is that they try to get as many people to vote as possible, even if people haven't actually played the games in question.
People will see a bunch of games they haven't played, be like "oh hey I at least know the name of that one" and vote for it even though they have no idea if the others are more deserving or not.
At the time I'm writing this, recent reviews reached mostly negative (29%), and all-time reviews are mixed (64%). Which is honestly a lot more than it deserves, but I would hardly call that "riding Bethesda's cock".
It's probably just a matter of big games getting more votes, because of name recognition. This is just a popularity contest, after all.
The steam awards were never anything but a contest about which game is the most known. I really dislike them due to that, but at least one title (BG3 deserved it this year)
As any proper award ceremenoy, useless popularity garbage.
Rdr2 a labor of love? After they abandoned the multiplayer cause they coudnt give it money printing shark cards?
And starfield is innovative? In what? Being the laziest pile of poo that people still bought?
There is no way they actually gave "Most innovative gameplay" to Starfield. And on top of that Best Soundtrack to Last of Us Part 1? Did they change the soundtrack for the remaster? How is it even nominated in 2023?
Anyone who didn't expect BG3 to win Game of the Year has been under a rock since it launched O.o Anyone who expected Starfield to win Most Innovative Gameplay, are you offering divination services to the public?
Damn, I know some people are dead-set on insisting that Starfield isn't that bad but... innovative?? Really??? Most innovative?!?? Baffling!
Anyone who expected Starfield to win Most Innovative Gameplay, are you offering divination services to the public?
It was an easy call to make. Steam Awards are voted by the public, so it's all about name recognition.
The other finalists in that category were Shadow of Doubt, Contraband Police, Remnant II, and Your Only Move Is Hustle. Of all these, I had heard about Starfield and Remnant II.
I'm sure some of these games are awesome and I want to check them out by virtue of being finalists, but it was pretty clear Starfield was gonna win on brand recognition alone.
Exactly. It's pretty hard to vote for a category when you don't even know half of the games. When it came to the most innovative category I imagine most people had only heard of Starfield. Remnant 2 was good, but it was always a more niche title and it got largely overshadowed by BG3 releasing only a week later.
And of the indie titles I had only heard of Shadows of Doubt which I think is really innovative. It's sort of a procedurally generated detective game where you're solving crimes while technically also committing crimes. But it's in early access and is not an easily accessible game, so I don't really fault it for not doing the rounds in the gaming circles.
Like someone else said it's gotta be a result of the voting for the awards being awful. I wanted to like Starfield and (ducks down) even got it early at the higher price.*
But yeah lol innovation is a joke. Makes me feel bad for the devs who really made innovative stuff this year.
*To be fair I had a shitty week before that and needed a new Bethesda game to make my life less awful so it...worked? It was my comfort food ok?????
Tsk, tsk. :P It's okay, don't worry about it. Also don't worry about the red dot dancing around near you. It's just having a nice time. Feel free to stand up and stand still in front of the sni- uh, the rest of us ~.^
It's probably an ironic award, though I stand by the statement that Starfield isn't any worse than Bethesda's other mainstream titles post-Morrowind, except for the fact that it can't ride on the writing of much better writers who either left the company or made the IP they acquired.
Starfield is the first pure creation of Modern Bethesda, and they can't rely on the excellent lore and world building of other games like Fallout 1 and 2, Morrowind, etc.
That being said, 90% of issues can be solved by halving the radius for POI generation, adding a huge number of new POIs for the pool, and adding a survival mode to make shipbuilding important, space travel require fuel, and spacesuits necessary for environmental protection.
Idunno if it's what you meant but this comment could read like "They took a dumpster fire, poured it into a septic tank, and then added something unpleasant" 😅 Seems Fallout 4 isn't much-loved, and at least in my mind NMS is never gonna escape the shitstorm it caused at launch (though even I've bought a copy by now) so... owch!
Either way, I fully agree that possibly the most despised-for-being-dull game of the year getting called "innovative" is asinine. Maybe it's sarcastic? The only other option that makes any sense is that a lot of people just voted for it because they knew the name and had no real opinion. Kinda gross if that's the case :-\
It's just as innovative as fellow Most Innovative award laureate Stray's automatically- jump-to-a-highlighted-platform style of platforming with crappy stealth sections.
BG3 winning GOTY and LC winning BWF awards make sense.
what doesn't make sense is Starfield being innovative, RDR2 having constant dev support and Pizza Tower being robbed for the second time.
Steam has once again shown us the flaws of a direct democracy, in that idiots get an equal vote to informed people. Really the only winner that makes sense is Baldur's Gate 3. Even discounting the obviously silly ones, like a game that hasn't been updated in three years winning Labor of Love, something like Hogwarts Legacy is a generic by-the-numbers open world collectathon that's nowhere near the best thing you can play on the Deck. Atomic Heart's visual style is a 2008 shooter with a sprinkle of Sovietpunk. Neither the Last of Us Part 1 or SIFU even came out in 2023.
On the one hand, you can make a clear argument that 2023 was a pretty shitty year for games, and say "sure the awards look stupid, but nothing good came out." That's a pretty fair take for AAA, but a ton of incredible games came out in the AA and indie space. Some of them, like Lethal Company and Dave the Diver, were mentioned, but tons of great games weren't even nominated. I think Valve needs to do a better job of policing the nominations if they want to show off more of the creative and original titles that go to Steam. Otherwise, we'll just keep recognizing derivative garbage, since it usually has the most money behind it.
Also very hard to vote legitimately against a concentrated effort. 4 of the 5 games deserve to be there, should be about 25% of the vote each. 1 "luls" entry will draw the clowns that put it there, along with people who didn't originally think "burn it down"was an option.
Strong disagree. My favorite game of the year wasn't up for game of the year. I feel bad that I actually put some effort into "looking into" the games I hadn't heard of before (was this valves plan?) To make sure I was giving proper consideration before making my choices.
I voted for 4 of the 11 winners, none of which went with the "troll" votes
RDR2 beating DRG and DOTA 2 for Labor of Love is a fucking joke. Even RUST and APEX still get regular updates.
Outstanding visual style for Atomic Heart?! Are you shitting me? Only unique visuals in that is the faceless sex bots and it's a terrible game overall. Wholly undeserved.
Most Innovative Gameplay for STARFIELD?! OF ALL GAMES?! Yikes. Just.. fucking yikes.
I don't know but it would be very like Valve to put zero effort into ensuring it's not manipulated.
That said, most large polls trend much more mainstream than people expect.
Starfield may have been a bold new frontier in mediocrity but it nevertheless had about 2 million more chances to be someomes favorite game compared to some indie title.
It's not even that big of a surprise after last year's "best VR game" was Hitman 3. That game's VR support is, excuse my language, absolute fucking dogshit.
Bonelab was a disappointment, absolutely, but at least it was a proper damn VR game and not a mediocre game with VR tacked on for literally no reason but, I assume, some exec's feature checklist
Such nonsensical results. It really is a popularity contest.
At this point, I think it's clear that voting restrictions of some sort are necessary. My first thought: players can only vote in a category if they've got at least 5 hours of total gameplay distributed amongst at least 25% of the games in that category, with a minimum of 30 minutes of gameplay per game.
I literally only voted on one thing by accident because the button made it look like I was going to go to another page to choose my vote in that category. Turns out I was just voting for the game I was looking at immediately and irrevocably.
Like BG3 winning GOTY and story rich makes total sense.
But RDR2 won labor of love? What? Lol. Have they been putting out massive updates lately or something?
Atomic heart won visual style... Sure? I mean I guess it's atmospheric but I wouldn't call it particularly stylized.
Lethal company getting better with friends is a solid pick
Hogwarts Legacy is best on deck? The fuck? Lol I suppose i haven't played this one but I was under the impression the game was like... Fine? Kinda boring after a while but still playable? It's not horribly offensive but how does a game like that win an award for being the most beloved steam deck game lol
STARFIELD WON FUCKING WHAT??? Okay, I was not as big a starfield hater as some. I thought it was boring as shit for sure but I don't think it's completely without merit on the whole... But Innovative? Fucking LOL! Starfield innovated exactly 0 things, hell it retroactively made things from 2011 seem new by comparison. I don't think theres a single fresh idea in that entire game. Starfield winning most innovative game paints a very uncomfortable picture of the steam awards. There is CLEAR tampering going on here, either by bots vote spamming, or just a behind the curtain dealings with Bethesda. To be honest every single other award here feels tenuous at best just by Starfield winning that specific award. If that boring ass rehash of 2007 gameplay can be called the most innovative game on steam then I'm not sure I can trust any of these games actually got nominated by real players for any of their respective awards. What a fucking joke
The fact that Bomb Rush Cyberfunk didn't make any of the lists, especially for the soundtrack category, was disappointing. The fact that a fucking remake won the best soundtrack category is straight-up gross. Valve should honestly disqualify remakes from the steam awards. There are a few exceptions, like I think Halo's MCC is worthy of standing by itself, but they've gotta do something more than remaster some textures and throw in a few new models.
Did RDR2 get an update that freshens the game up? I thought Labor of Love was for things like Terraria where the devs keep updating the game over time. I would think that NMS of all titles would be more deserving, unless they have a rags-to-riches sort of award
Yeah it makes no sense that Cyberpunk wasn’t even a finalist for this award. They should’ve won for the comeback they’ve made after their disastrous launch. RDR2 is a bizarre choice.
The Last of Us is a goddamn masterpiece I will never shut up about, but I don't even remember the soundtrack. If it deserves as award in 2023 (a questionable premise to begin with), it should be for the story, acting, or gameplay.
They really had Starfield competing for “most innovative” with nothing but smaller indie titles that most people probably haven’t played. No wonder it won, it looks like Valve practically guaranteed them the award.
The biggest other game on that category was Remnant 2, a fantastic game that improves on everything the previous iteration did but isn't really innovative since it's a sequel.
I agree with you, but how many people do you think played Remnant 2 vs played Starfield? Unfortunately part of these game awards, at least for ones that players vote for, is the popularity aspect. People will vote even if they only know 1 or 2 of the nominees, so a game’s popularity ends up being a huge advantage.
So in this case Starfield, for some bizarre reason, got stacked up with a bunch of indies with significantly smaller player bases. So despite Starfield having no right to win the award, it did.
It really feels like it was purposefully pit against those games to give it a free award. I can’t think of any other explanation.
Edit: Some people are speculating that people voted for it as a joke, and did the same for RDR2 winning “Labor of Love” despite having no new content since release. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true.
I didn’t think I would enjoy Hogwartz Legacy as much I have. I’m not sure what I was expecting but being a demigod who just absolutely wrecks anything in my path with pure violence wasn’t it
the award heist is going smoothly. theyll never know what hit them. but even though everyone banded together to put my crappy scribbles on the lineup, i need you to click on them AGAIN because gaben DOESNT WANT US TO WIN!!!
who is stronger, todd howard (1 man) or the HUSTLERS (millions)
—Game developer of Your Only Move Is HUSTLE, a fellow innovative award finalist