Users report having their Apple hardware banned, Beeper responds by locking the discussion 😳
Update: it may be limited to those using a hackintosh in conjunction with beeperserv (the jailbreak tweak). Still kind of lousy of them to lock the reddit topic though…
Several users recently reported that after using pypush—the tool that Beeper paid $25,000 for in order to build Beeper Mini—Apple banned their genuine Apple hardware devices from accessing iMessage.
When their comments were shared to the r/Beeper subreddit, one of the mods whom Beeper appointed decided to lock the comments, citing the “need to investigate this further” and directing concerned users to “reach out to support through the appropriate channels.”
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Can we finally stop believing/repeating Apple's lie that the blue bubbles are about security? It's clearly and obviously about controlling their users.
It's not even about controlling their users, it's literally to sell phones. The most impressionable demographic are teenagers and young adults. Apple has sold them the idea that blue bubbles are cool and green bubbles are uncool. Thus people without blue bubbles are outsiders, which creates societal pressure to them to buy an iPhone.
I almost doubted this would happen because of how bad of a decision it would be to ban people over this but yet again Apple never seizes to surprise me.
It would definitely be interesting to see this go to a major court. I imagine Apple will argue you’re free to do whatever you want on your device but that that does not extend to iMessage servers because those requires accepting pretty strict terms of service and will argue the users are breaking the EULA which they agreed to. Apple will argue they have the right to run their servers as they see fit.
We need new regulations around corporations that run these pseudo-commons platforms as “legit capitalist platforms.”
Yep, I think you nailed it. Also, crucial distinction: one is a product (e.g., iMac), and the other is a service. When you purchase an iMac, you're acquiring the product; using the services is a separate aspect from a contractual perspective.
what is pypush? is that the tool used for initial registration on non-mac devices? That's what I'm getting from the github page: https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush
So are these users registering imessage accounts on non-apple hardware and then using apple hardware with that account? Seems strange.
/edit the mods responded here saying that the user is known for spreading misinformation. So they're not just banning a random person for saying this. Fyi I'm not banned yet.
/edit2 the user kugo10 is saying that the bans are everywhere but at least one user in that thread is saying their VM was banned but their iphone was fine and able to use imessage.