What do you miss the most from the 90s?
What do you miss the most from the 90s?
For me it's holding a VHS in the store and looking at the cover.
The feeling that things might get better.
Don't you have any dreams?
What's to dream about? Living these days feels like being in a game of monopoly where someone started with hotels on every property. The fascists are winning, the planet is burning, we're in the middle of two wars, the capitalists are talking about putting shock collars on their vault slaves when the apocalypse begins, and all signs point to everything getting worse as time goes on. In light of all this, my dream is dying peacefully in my sleep before the water wars begin and I get pushed into Nestle's torment nexus to make the stock price go up a fraction of a penny.
Climate change was still a "this will be a big problem and we need to do something about it sooner rather than later" issue instead of "actively experiencing and watching the damage and misery on a near daily basis and knowing it will be getting much much worse" reality.
No amount of Captain Planet telling me to separate my recyclables is going to fix this shit.
The water here in the Netherlands has been way too high for weeks now, and we've had some crazy ass storms. Even a cyclone or something? I don't even know what it's called.
Anyway it's going to require some crazy engineering if the Netherlands is to move into the 22nd century.
For me it was the inspiration I felt from technological improvements. I grew up in a house where my father was a network engineer and would constantly have computers opened up he was tinkering with. And all through the 90s I saw more and more improvements that made me feel like the future would be even more amazing! This persisted well into the 2000s with the coming of social media and small commercial devices like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. It just seemed like everything was improving and that if a company stopped improving, another company would come along and give the people what they want! But now I live in a world where all of the things that used to excite me have betrayed me and anything new I am extremely skeptical of. I see all kinds of new and interesting technological improvements come along and while they seem like excellent ideas that would improve my life, I also see the many ways in which they would exploit me, my privacy, and my money. I would love to have a camera doorbell in which I can see who is at the door and talk to them while I'm not at home, but those devices are horribly insecure and you have to subscribe to their services. I just can't do it and I wish we could go back to the days in which you could just buy a product that might improve in a few years and you didn't need to worry about it watching you or costing money every month. Instead you could just be excited about your little gadget and dream about what the next version would be like.
Have you ever looked into options for self hosting doorbell camera data, or the ones that store on the device with SD cards?
I did, due to the same concerns you listed. I found that self hosting would be detrimental to my server’s data drives and reduce their lifespan from the constant activity, and the SD card ones lacked some extremely nice to have features you get from cloud native mobile apps.
Curious if there are viable alternatives that have emerged since then, as it has been a few years since I researched this stuff.
Big box games with proper manuals.
Omg remember riding home reading the manuals and your fantasy going wild?
…and fabric maps, and tchotchkes, and code wheels.
Hope
😞
No cell phones
My wife and I are increasingly convinced that we, humanity, peaked in the 90s. We had conquered acid rain. We were removing CFCs. The internet was coming in, so were mobile phones (but only to call and text, so you could stay in touch but escaped the trap of a million cameras around us), the music was so incredibly broad (Brit pop, grunge, spice girls, dance … it was like the world’s biggest buffet), the high street was still doing fine, TV had great shows (Seinfeld, X-files etc) and everyone just seemed a damn sight happier than today since misery-communities hadn’t formed on the internet to celebrate and refine their misery.
It was a simpler time. And all powered by a healthy western economy and the declaration of a (naive) victory in the Cold War.
Peak delusion as well. We basically believe everything on TV. I think the 90s in western countries were just more mild, but not objectively better. Now everything is extreme, both much worse and much better.
That's what they said in The Matrix, isn't it? 1999: the peak of human civilization. At the time, the future looked bright, but in the grand scheme of things, it hasn't played out as we hoped.
Having guys make me mix tapes.
Anyway, this one really cute guy at college had an epic cassette collection and he was also artistically talented so he made custom covers/inserts for each one. The original tape is long gone, but somewhere I still have my favorite cassette cover that also includes the hand-printed play list.
He had other excellent skills, so I eventually married him.
The ability to take for granted that anything and everything I purchased was owned outright. It couldn't be taken away, either intentionally or accidentally, in any capacity.
Now everything is all always-online digital licenses, and they can be swapped to monthly subscriptions at a moments notice.I hate having to rent everything. I am thinking about going back to DVDs for movies.
I miss not having social media and news that, at least generally, tried to be actual news and not 'JusT ASkinG QUeStioNs' and disingenuous bullshit. It was a wild ride being on social media almost since its birth, but I think it generally was a huge mistake. Things should have stopped at IRC and UseNet.
The bright colors. Something has changed and suddenly neon jackets and shirts were available. It felt very optimistic and futuristic. Everything was briefly neon. It was glorious.
It was not long after that pants got huge and clothing got dark, subtle, and depressed. Like everyone wants to be an adult and not an easy target for the random gunmen.
Shit. School shootings weren't a thing. I miss that not being a thing.
Neon all of the things!
Fresh episodes of X-Files and Star Trek: TNG every week.
Just that whole experience of something on television being a cultural zeitgeist because everyone had to watch it at the exact same time because that was the only time it existed. Sure, you could record it on VHS and watch later, but it wasn't the same. Even being at home watching alone felt like participating in a social event.
Are you into strange new worlds?
Ya that thing about TV being a ritual is something I heard before from someone. Interesting perspective.
IRC.
ICQ
Catalogues. Totally different feeling than online shopping. You could explore them for hours. No need to wait for a good offer, because the price does not change.
The internet. Web2.0 made everything worse with trackers and three companies running almost everything.
Big box games, especially the ones with the "board game" style boxes.
CRTs (mainly because of what they represent).
Point-and-click adventure games (thanks Myst).
Game/movie rental stores.
Malls.
In general, I miss the fact that the 90s (and early 2000s) had the internet, but the internet wasn't developed enough to replace physicality. As we've grown more dependent on the internet, we're losing physicality. Our games are digital, our music is digital, our TV shows, movies, news, socialization, everything is becoming digital. We own less and less because companies don't have to offer a physical product anymore. We dreamed of 3d malls that we'd browse with friends in virtual reality; but we got text and images instead. Our malls have no form, neither physical or virtual, the worst of both worlds. We no longer have a chance at physicality, even in a virtual sense, because doing so is a waste of resources. Why build a virtual mall when a webpage will suffice?
Somehow music is fighting back against the loss of physicality and is winning with records, CDs and yes, even cassettes. I hope eventually we make a return to physicality and can learn from this obsession with the digital and non-physical.
What did you mean exactly with what CRTs represent? They just make me think of that electron gun thing and their weight and never fitting on a desk.
And about those 3d malls, can you tell me anything more about that fantasy? Did you mean you could buy physical products there or only digital?
CRTs are heavy and cumbersome. As such, they represent computers at a time when the majority of PCs were stationary and couldn't be hauled around. Sure, there were laptops and cellphones, but those were limited in functionality and weren't a real replacement for a desktop PC like they are now.
As for virtual malls, I remember there being lots of noise made, especially surrounding the internet, about virtual worlds where you could hang out with your friends or go shopping. The idea being that it was a virtual replacement for a physical location; you could buy physical and virtual goods at these imaginary virtual malls. They just... never came into being. Instead of 3d environments that let you socialize and shop, you have flat webpages that only serve to sell you goods.
OS/2 Warp
BeOS
NextOS
What did you do on there besides visit the warp center.
Hope for the future
What about the far future?
If humanity survives the near future, sure
Going multi-day backpacking with buddies. Knees and back are whining little wusses now.
It's awesome that you did that. Would be cool if medicine could fix that for you one day. Did you know there's loads of walking videos online? Also for vr. And there's games.
For me it’s holding a VHS in the store and looking at the cover.
Yeah - that's a good one. Our local store had a Friday night deal: 5 weekly rentals for 10 bucks, or something. We'd go order fish and chips, then go argue over which 5 movies to rent, while our dinner was cooking.
Although I shouldn't, I miss my shitty old Datsun sometimes. Easy to diagnose problems, simple to get into and fix, with minimal tools required. No tech - just mechanical and electrical.
Nostalgia's a funny thing. Lots of things I get wistful for, but they've been replaced by (arguably) more convenient things:
- Having to call your mate's house at a specific time, because you know he has footy training and won't be home to answer before that time
- Waiting until specific times of night to watch your favourite TV shows or listen to your favourite radio DJs
- The massive zip-up carry case for all my cassette tapes, to play in the car
- 6-way link-up Daytona arcade racing
- Loading my computer games from multiple floppy discs (X-Tree Gold macros for the win!)
Then there's things that I miss, because now I have to adult:
- Sleeping in on weekends
- Work I don't have to take home with me
- Being able to stay out stupidly late on Friday and Saturday nights
- Getting absolutely shitfaced on those nights, without worrying about the hangover
- Eating a bag of chips and calling it dinner, because there's no one else you need to feed
Daytona racing looks ace! And waiting for fish and chips while picking 5 movies, jeez that's the cheese!
$4 punk shows on Fridays and $6 rock shows on Saturdays. Unless one of the bands was getting radio play then it was $8 or $12.
Someone else paying the bills.
Born in the early 80s, the 90s been my youth. Reading through the comments here I realize there's nothing I miss from the 90s. Every single thing mentioned here has either been replaced by something better, or isn't gone in the first place.
Watching the birth of the general public internet that everyone has access to.
I remember the early 90s hearing people talk about it, then seeing signs of it in the mid 90s. We all thought it was going to make the world so much better for everything and everyone.
Then starting in the late 90s everyone was getting online and it just went crazy.
It was exciting to be around for the start of it all.
We got to live life without an internet and then all of sudden it was here and we couldn't live without it.
It was like being the generation that saw the first airplanes and commercial aviation becoming part of the world.
The what?
The internet ..... I've mentioned this before and whenever I suggest the internet started in the 90s, I get corrected that technically it was started in the 80s or even the 70s. I'm talking about the general internet that the public interacted with, the internet in the 90s that we all know and understand, the internet with cat memes and porn.
I miss myself.
What happened?
@xilliah early 20s is kind of a physical peak. 30 years takes its toll on the human body and mind, at the best of times.
Big box computer games, with manuals and maps and those game brochures showing you all the other Ocean software products.
My brother collected these. I think he still has some of them somewhere. Like the original boxes for Diablo and Starcraft.
I collected some too, but I think I eventually got rid of mine. I was into the various Maxis Sim games, so I had tons of the boxes. SimCity, SimTower, SimPark, SimIsle...
The best manual was probably Ultima Online, an MMO. I read and studied the shit out of that thing. Used to bring it to school to learn all the spells and stuff. Also came with a good sized, folded-up map of the world on special paper.
No automated self serve checkouts.
Those machines are just plain rude and noisy.
Getting bored with my job and being able to have a new one that afternoon.
Wow what planet are you from?
Florida
Not having to work. I was 12 or 13 at the turn of the millennium. So not working was nice.
I probably miss my Gameboy Pocket (and Pokemon). Yeah the screen was tiny, not in color, and it wasn't backlit, and I have a Switch and Steam Deck and of course an smartphone, but...Idk, the Pocket was just so quaint and cute. I could just play that play Pokemon for hours on end, anywhere I wanted, without disturbing anyone. Which I did, sometimes even at school, which eventually got it confiscated by a teacher; I got it back at the end of the day.
It was such a paradigm change in gaming (Yes, I know the original GB or even Sega GameGear existed, but I knew few people who had one and they were bulky as all hell).
having somewhere to go that isn’t trying to get me to spend money.
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