DeSantis' wife prompts Republican reminder of Iowa nominating process rules
DeSantis' wife prompts Republican reminder of Iowa nominating process rules
A call by the wife of Republican candidate Ron DeSantis for women from across the United States to "descend" on Iowa for its 2024 presidential nominating process prompted a reminder by the state Republican party that only residents can take part.
"You must be a legal resident of Iowa and the precinct you live in and bring a photo ID with you to participate," the state Republican party said on Friday in a post on the social media platform X.
The party is scheduled to hold local gatherings, known as the Iowa Caucus, on Jan. 15 in which participants will vote for their choice for the Republican candidate to run in November’s presidential election. U.S. President Joe Biden is expected to be the Democratic Party’s nominee.
The state Republican Party posted its reminder after Casey DeSantis, appearing on Fox News with her husband, the governor of Florida, called on women from across the country to join the gatherings, saying, “You do not have to be a resident of Iowa to participate."
Behind every dumb cardboard cutout of an alt right candidate is a suffering wife who has no idea what’s going on and just wants to order Thigh food.
Republicans: "We're attacked with illegal votes!"
De Santis wife: "Non-residents, vote for us."
Took me, a non-US citizen, a while to get the joke.
Sort of, poster left out the key quote that triggered the post from the Republican party:
"We are asking all of these moms and grandmoms to come from wherever it might be, North Carolina, South Carolina, and to descend upon the state of Iowa," said Casey DeSantis, who has been promoting a "Mamas for DeSantis" coalition as she campaigns for her husband.
So non-resident in this context would be out of state.
Shitty that they have to bring photo ID, which poorer people disproportionately do not have.
I hear that argument all the time and I don't buy it. You need photo ID to get a job, have a bank account, see a doctor, get a prescription, buy smokes/alcohol/adult video games/legal weed, drive a car, and by extension have insurance, rent a place to live, get a mortgage.
The only significantly large group who don't do any of that are the Amish.
In many states you have to present multiple forms of ID to get ID. Its a catch 22 in many places that disproportionately affects lower income people. If you lose your ID in Florida, depending on your residency status and whether the Tax Collector's office is enforcing rules, you may have to present birth certificate or a Social Security Card. To get a copy of your Social Security Card, you have to have a valid photo ID. Birth certificates require a permanent residence, access to online payment (bank account), and internet access to the right websites.
A lot of lower income people don't have mortgages, drive, see medical professionals regularly, etc. Part of that is because of the barriers to easily getting a replacement ID that exist.
I worked with these individuals for years, and the amount of burden that it put people under was immense. In just my location alone I helped hundreds of people each year navigate government systems to get ID and aid. Its laughable how hard it is for the people wbo need help to access the programs that are currently in place.
I think the main problem is that IDs accepted by banks are not always valid for voting. I remember that in some state gun permit was valid for voting but student ID wasn't. It's all designed to skew the results just so slightly. Also, 5% of Americans don't have a bank account. In close elections those numbers matter.
There's a whole bunch of comments explaining how low-income people aren't able to do those things either, especially banking, and how that adds to the cycle of poverty. For anyone actually interested in an answer about what life is like for impoverished working people in the US, I would recommend reading Nickel and Dimed by Barbara Ehrenreich and Evicted by Matthew Desmond. The level of poverty that exists in America generally is, and should be, shocking to the average American. I really hope the Amish comment is a joke because it's so so incredibly wrong.
As a non American it's kinda wild that
A: you don't need ID to vote
B: not everyone has ID, like, how do you get a bank account or drive or go to school or change a cheque or get benefits or buy beer or anything?
C: getting an ID is so difficult that requiring one is controversial.
ID is not issued by the federal government. It's typically issued at the state level. As far as the bank account goes, most poor Americans are locked out of the banking system. Many poor Americans cannot afford a car. Etc...
Here's a brief summary of the physical and financial obstacles. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/challenge-obtaining-voter-identification
All this shit adds up. Then you have to understand the same people who have to jump through all these hoops for an ID likely have to way half a day in line to vote. The same people pushing for voter ID laws in the US are closing polling places in these people's neighborhoods to make it even more difficult. These are people who can't afford to take half a day to get ID or another half a day to wait in line to vote. Because the if they miss work they'll lose their job or be unable to make rent for the month.
People on the left are not opposed to voter ID requirements, we're opposed to implementing more burdens on people who already struggle with the logistics of voting.
Make the required identification 100% free and cover the costs of any documents and time needed to get it and I'm all for it. But barriers for legitimate voters are antidemocratic and a very dark part of US history.
If voting day were a holiday it wouldn't be nearly as contraversial to require IDs, especially if ID offices were open those days.
As a non-us Citizen: why? Do you have to pay to get an ID?
In my state, it's $10 for a non-driver state issued ID card. However, the offices you need to visit in person have limited days and hours that they are open, meaning some people can't afford to take the time off of work to do so.
If for some reason they don't already have supporting identifying documents like a social security card, it could take multiple steps and visits.
Generally, yes. And sometimes you need an address, so it's more difficult if you're homeless
Hinest question. Without ID how do you know who they are? How do you know they haven't already voted?
The way Iowa does it, to my understanding, is they gather and a number of people speak in favor of candidates, and they take the poll live. So it’s a good evening at the polling site.
It had its own penalty. Iowans don't like non Iowans participating in their caucus. He will definitely lose votes.
Yep my wife is an expatriate of Iowa, they are a surprisingly prickly people about outsiders.
Other than the primaries, what else do they have?
Corn?
Let them have their thing.
Popcorn ....must get more popcorn...
Dumb and Dumber.