Ex-officer Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison, sources say

Are we sure he was actually stabbed and didn't just have a pre-existing condition that caused a hole to open in his stomach, because of all the drugs he was on?

Stop resisting
- He should have just complied with the stabber. If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear

I constantly hear laments about how broken our prison system is. How it's focused on punishment instead of rehabilitation. How inmates aren't safe. How the steps they have to take to survive on the inside turns them into hardened criminals and almost guarantees they'll end up back after release. How the entire thing is inhumane and the fact that they've lost their freedom is punishment enough.

Then you have posts like this where tons of people are cheering the very things they claim to hate.

You guys are such complete fucking hypocrites it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

It's not hypocritical if the community driven to treat people as sub human get treated as sub human. This is like those comments about how you have to tolerate Nazis because if you don't you're just as bad.

This man slowly killed another as they begged for their mother. He wasn't hardened by prison but by a police force that sees compassion as weakness.
- This is nothing like the paradox of tolerance. Nobody is arguing for tolerating murderers, and reforming the system that let Chauvin get stabbed will not lead to that system being abused by the potential victims of stabbings. They will stil be incarcerated, but their punishment will be on society's terms, and not their fellow inmates' terms.
  
  On the other hand, it is hypocritical to call for reform of a brutal prison system on one hand and then chuckle when certain individuals are subjected to that same brutal system. Either acceptance of prison violence is okay, or its not.
Both things can be true at the same time. I wholeheartedly want prison reform and inmates to be treated better, but since we're not at that point yet, I'm not mad about some asshole getting stabbed in there. Some would call that karma.

Do you really expect people to hear about this and use it as ammunition for how we need to change the prison system? "oh no we need to reform prisions so the guy who killed someone by kneeling on another mans neck for 10 minutes can be safe."
- You have a chance for an actual argument more conservative people would grasp and this is your response. Holy hell.
Everyone's a bit of a hypocrite. I for one hate the prison system. I'd prefer that no one got stabbed. If someone is going to get stabbed though, may as well be one of the ones that's there for a damn good reason, than some non violent drug offender or some shit.
It's like the whole paradox of tolerance thing. My responsibility to tolerate your opinion ends when your opinion is 'death to (insert marginalised group)'. Similarly, the vast majority of prisoners deserve to be rehabilitated. But those who abuse authority to kill, rob or otherwise harm those whom they are supposed to protect deserve to be punished.
You really got that strawmen you set up. Sure showed him
Honestly if anyone was going to get stabbed, I'd rather it be him than someone less deserving...
- But what if, and hear me out on this, we made it so stabbings aren't commonplace, even if they're racists, or drug dealers, or fraudsters
Imagine thinking there's only one set of opinions on lemmy.
- Reading the other responses here though it's very clear that hypocritically contradictory views on this are common. Everyone seems to want to say prisoners deserve a safe environment but also at the same time the ones they have no empathy for should be assaulted. The cognitive dissonance is real.
I understand hypocrisy... I disagree that it lessens the seriousness.

The prison system IS broken and is mainly targeted against the poor, the uneducated, the oppressed, and of course minorities. I believe prisons are a necessary evil for those who are a danger to others.

What is unacceptable is that many people with minor crimes are forced into the prison system by those whom are privileged and in power.

This inmate ex-cop received some karmedic backlash from those whom he focused his energy to oppress. I won't argue if his death is right or wrong since I don't have the qualifications to judge his fate.

Now... belittling the "laments" of others due to the broken nature of the prison system is NOT lessed just because of another's hypocrisy.

Choose to be malignant if you wish but be transparent about it. Maybe if everyone is honest in the malignance society can adapt against it.

You can also choose an alternate popular option and simply be willfully ignorant. This should not come with a badge to belittle others pain.

Or at the very least everyone should try to be a little better than yesterday. Let's all hold each other accountable to be a better person everyday and call out BS when we see it.
It's frustrating how common this sentiment is. As long as people think there is justification for dehumanizing others, it's easy to manipulate them as to who that "other" is. Chauvin is the product of a shitty system we can celebrate when that system is destroyed.
Then you have fascists like you who have no problem with the prison system being broken UNTIL one of yours gets hurt because of it.
- I... I don't think anything they said is fascist or at all supporting the prison system? You ok bud?
Violence and sexual assault can't be tolerated in prison, but I certainly don't know the answer. People who are highly motivated can pull this kind of stuff off with common items.

Oh no...

Anyway, who's still eating leftovers?

I make leftovers toasties for day after Thanksgiving lunch every year. Always a big hit in our house.
- When I was young, my grandmother used to put leftover turkey, cranberries, and sweet potatoes in a ball surrounded by stuffing and then fried. They were my favorite.
I started watching The Leftovers. The title is really misleading. Turns out it has nothing to do with turkey and stuffing sandwiches.

He's one of those guys that's just better stabbed than unstabbed, you know? You can't define it, but you know it when you see it.

It's terrible that this happened.

But... couldn't happen to a better person.

I know what you mean, but he's in prison precisely because there are better people. He's quite literally among the worst.

There are thousands upon thousands of people incarcerated in the US, and many of them don't deserve to be there. This power-drunk, murderous thug genuinely deserves to be in prison, as well as everything that comes with the territory of being a corrupt cop among a herd of inmates.
- I agree with the sentiment but it's kinda weird to raise the topic of "broken justice system" in a thread where the system finally punishes someone who deserves it.
- Weirdly dehumanizing language gets the down vote from me, sorry.
It's good that it happened. It's the closest thing to justice that pig will ever face.
- Look, I don't like chauvin, police, etc, but no, it's bad. Perpetuating violence period is bad. Perpetuating it in a system that already has a ton of issues, and celebrating it? Bad.
  
  I'm happy it was him, and not some non-violent offender or some shit, but this is still a bad thing.

Prisons in general should not be dangerous places.

Even for unrepentant murderers like this.

We should live in a utopia.
Of course the itjustworks user is running barely-disguised defense for the fascist thug. Cryptofash instance.
- 'Vigilante violence in state custody is undesirable even if someone deserves it' is apparently the opposite of what this alleged leftist wants.
  
  Not that anything I say could possibly change your mind, once you've labeled someone as the most extreme outgroup and committed to a bad-faith reading of 'prisoners should survive prison.'
- Nawwwe, fuck Chauvin, he deserves worse than he got, but you'll never get me to agree prisons are good. Like, no chance.

Chauvin still hasn’t apologized or expressed remorse. He’s only conveyed “condolences” to George Floyd’s family and “best wishes” for his children.

He maintains his trial wasn’t fair.

Yeah I’m not gonna feel bad at all about this. Fuck him.

Chauvin was seriously injured.

Floyd died on May 25, 2020, after Chauvin pressed on his neck for 9½ minutes on a street by a convenience store in Minneapolis

In the last five months, Chauvin’s stabbing is the second high-profile attack on a federal prisoner. According to the AP, former sports doctor Larry Nasser was stabbed by an inmate last July.

In this thread: a lot of people who are (low key?) pro death penalty

It's more like a golden rule kind of thing. People aren't pro death penalty. There's just a bit of catharsis here.
I'm against the death penalty based on the idea that any law that can be used to rightfully execute someone who's guilty of a heinous crime can be abused to wrongfully execute someone who didn't. In this case, I don't want the state to have the authority to execute anyone, but I'm not upset when someone who murders people gets stabbed.
That's not the death penalty, that's the very people he oppressed doing exactly what he deserved to him.
- That’s a lynching. Calling it anything else is cladding yourself in moral costume.
Yeah, there is a lot of people calling for other people's death everywhere, in a lot of threads online. It makes me sick that so many people simply go "I wish they were dead" and not think of what it actually means.

You know, I strongly believe in redemption of people. But, this is one of the rare cases where I feel no remorse that he got stabbed. Fuck this guy and what is he did. He deserves no mercy.