Are we gonna make a big difference after this migration?
Are we gonna make a big difference after this migration?
Does everybody thinks that this migration is gonna change peoples mind about not using Reddit anymore ? Here's hoping.
I’m fucking stoked to see so many people like me (who are pissed at how corporations fuck their own product just to make more money) migrate over here. For once I feel like I actually have a way to “protest” corporations and their greed. I know the vast majority of Reddit users didn’t care, but I know many of us are here to break free from all of that tomfoolery. Just happy to be apart of it. Don’t know how long it will last, but I’m hoping that it does.
I’m just here. Cause Apollo is dead :(
me too, but i think im honestly done with reddit. i miss a lot of my niche communities but I created lemmy versions of some and I'm cross posting some top posts from reddit just to get things going a bit.
i see a lot of possibilities with lemmy, there are already some great apps being made (my fave rn is memmy, not quite native ios like apollo, but has a really polished look and gestures feel natural it's easy to get the hang of)
I thought I used Reddit a lot, but I've been rummaging around here waaaaay more than I ever did there.
It's been driving me nuts for days, but I literally JUST figured it out...
It reminds me of freshman year in college. Everyone is turbo-social and extra considerate. Maybe that's partly from not knowing who is who, or maybe even not remembering if you've met the person you're talking to because you met so many new people. Everything was fresh and new, and there was that feeling of starting a new journey. Lots of confusion and chaos, but everyone was understanding ("Oh, you're a freshman. Let me show you...").
That's a good way of putting it. It's really refreshing for people to act polite and give benefit of the doubt. I know that the honeymoon period won't last forever. But when the dust settles I hope it stays a happier place than Reddit.
I'm also sick of their bullshit algorithms and the whole engagement strategy of amplifying hate.
For once I feel like I actually have a way to “protest” corporations and their greed.
I'm poor AF and can't afford to "protest with my wallet", but leaving reddit because of their actions was a no brainer for me (even tho I never moderated or used an app).
I just want this place to be a new home. Don’t care what others do as long as enough people are making content here.
This feels much more like what the internet should be. Not the realm of giant advertising companies.
Agreed. I don't see it as an either/or issue. If this place becomes a cool place to hang out and find cool things and cool people, then that is a win.
Yea I didn't join reddit because everyone was there, I joined because I found it fun and enjoyable. For me, the quality of the site had been on the decline for awhile but this latest mess was the straw that broke the camels back.
At the moment, lemmy seems to be full of people who care about genuine interaction.
🤷♂️... Let's just make ourselves a comfortable place here.
Exactly. I don’t care if Reddit is used or not as long as the Fediverse remains a worthwhile alternative.
I gotta say, the percentage of meta posts here about reddit/Lemmy compared to any other content is really hurting its chances.
Even during the protests, it felt like the percentage of posts on reddit about reddit was maybe 50%. Here it's 75% or more. We need more normal content on the front of /all, or else this entire site becomes c/lemmycirclejerk or something. I'm hoping as the migration completes we return to more typical content.
I could not care either way. I came here to try a new site, but the constant barrage of meta-reddit posts is kind of ruining it.
Like, yeah, I get it. I had a lot of communities that I'm going to miss, too. But the way past that is to build new comunities here and forget about the old site, not obsess about its downfall like a clingy ex.
Agreed. I didn't come here to prove a point or get back at Reddit's CEO or change how people use that site. I can here to be a part of something that is hopefully better. What happens to other sites and anyone who chooses to use them isn't really my concern.
I’ve been waiting forever for a viable Reddit alternative. Reddit started going to shit a very long time ago. Going to non-corporate internet is a breath of fresh air, bugs and all.
For older guys like me, this place is familiar, though it’s been a very, very long time. I’m wondering how younger users are reacting to it.
It really does feel like going back to a simpler time on the web (in the best way) but with a few modern twists.
I have a feeling that many of the people who moved here are the most active ones who also probably used a 3rd party app. This has two effects: Lemmy becomes much more active despite the relatively low amount of users while reddit loses many of its most active members while keeping the lurkers that don't contribute and thus the content quality is going to see a significant drop despite the amount of users remaining about the same.
Lemmy doesn't need hundreds of millions of users to become better platform than reddit. We just need the most active ones. Facebook still exists too and is succeful on paper but who even goes there except my parents? For all I know that place could dissapear tomorrow and I wouldn't notice. It effectively doesn't exist to me already.
For me it's not about changing other peoples minds, it's more about creating a viable alternative to reddit for the right people.
Reddit should deal with hateful people and those who are unwilling to challenge themselves to look over the edge.
I think that people will still stick with Reddit just like there are a lot of people still using Twitter: it feels like their home online.
Here’s a funny thing though, I’ve seen so many posts on Lemmy by people saying they were lurkers on Reddit but they do (intend to) post here.
That can’t be a coincidence 😊I am one of those former lurkers/occasional posters and I’m kinda active here.
(As an aside: I do wonder if the lack of overload due to constant ads can be attributed to that)
I really don’t miss Reddit much now, because the communities on Lemmy are wonderful, and they can only grow more.
I agree. I lurked Reddit more because every post was met with someone trying to create an argument. Either they disagreed with what I said, made up a different point and disagreed with what they thought I said, or if they couldn't find anything else, corrected grammar.
It's enough to make posting not worth the hassle. It wasn't like that before. Lemmy seems to be more like Reddit in 2012 or so. I'm definitely all for it!
Also, the larger point of if people will leave Reddit: I imagine most will stay. Because most people were still getting ads and don't care. Most people get inundated with ads all over the Internet and don't understand that it didn't use to be that way, and a little tinkering can prevent it in the first place. So they probably don't notice, and won't notice the unmoderated bots either.
But I don't know that those people helped move discussions, either.
feels like their home
This is actually sad as it reminds me of why people stay in countries with violent authoritative regimes.
I know, it's different, but there's also lot of parallels.
I guess the communities have to be of certain size to function and to feel welcoming to post into. For the first point you definitely need enough active users to make it feel alive but the second point is probably very person dependent. To me commenting in the big subreddits felt to much like showting in a very crowded space (so I didn't comment much) while currently on Lemmy they feel more comfortably sized and somehow more real.
Perhaps for the same reason I never really "got" twitter. I understand it's usefulness for journalists or celebrities but for me it was too close to screaming into the void to be useful/comfortable.
As for Reddit, many people will probably stick to it simply through the force of habit.
I think despite Reddits recent missteps, they are still very entrenched. But the apps that have been developed for Lenmy look very promising and I’m glad that this community seems to have a bright future.
I am curious why people prefer apps to the websites. I have never really used an app for a service that does/could just have a website. I am on mobile, and my browser does a fine job with Lemmy.
Different UX. Take a look at wefwef.app for an idea of the difference it can make.
Personally this is why I will ALWAYS search for an app first (keep in mind not all apps are a better choice, this is just in most cases):
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The UI is better. It feels easier to use. I find that websites can have issues with scrolling and get glitchy when they try to load too much.
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Accessibility. On a mobile site sometimes you have to go through layers of hamburger menus or it's not designed to be easy to use on a phone. With apps you usually have a bottom row menu to access important features and sometimes it's even customizable.
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Login. With a website, there is a higher chance I'll have to log in more often, either due to the website's security measures or the browser's. With an app, I typically stay logged in, or I'm able to use Face ID.
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Access to the thing itself. With a website I have to go find the site by either searching or going into bookmarks. (I'm aware Safari can add a webpage to your home screen but I use Firefox to sync bookmarks and bc Safari is too bare bones for me) With an app, I can just pull down on my screen, search a few letters and boom the app comes up.
That's what I can think of off the top of my head.
My browser works perfectly fine (at least with reddit, haven't tried the lemmy mobile site), but I'm using the memmy app right now for lemmy and I can swipe for upvotes and replying, I have a bar on the bottom to access home, search, profile, etc. When I search the results are organized into categories (posts, communities, people) with a few results as a preview under each.
I guess the best way to differentiate is that apps feel more intentional, like the dev really thought about the experience of using the product on a phone. Whereas many mobile sites feel like there wasn't a lot of effort put into the experience. And you are more limited on things like gestures, push notifications, etc.
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On desktop with reddit I had the extension of reddit enhancement suite, which did an amazing job of filtering out content I didn't want to see. Actually wiped out so much that /r/all would at times just be 3 posts per page at times. Led to finding new communities.
And on mobile the third party apps were a way of getting back that reddit enhancement suite type filtering. My reddit experience was pretty nice with so much stuff blocked for when I ventured outside my subscriptions.
They're super refined for mobile browsing. In most cases, they clear out the bullshit, have quality of life features, and have customisability to set things up how you like. They also constantly improve based on feedback.
To be honest, I don't think so.
Personally, I'm dedicated to transitioning to Lemmy. I was an Apollo user and it's disgusting how dirty they did Christian Selig. I will still use reddit for niche subs, cross posting to lemmy to get communities going, and for the odd question that I google now and again. There are still years and years of valuable content on reddit.
But while some people find it exciting to be part of a growing community, helping build something, other people are just here to lurk and consume the content provided. Those people are too impatient to wait for Lemmy to gain more traction, users, and content.
I think a lot of people made accounts or will make them, will check it here and there but ultimately get bored of the lack of content (compared to reddit) or give up when they can't figure out the federated/decentralized thing.
There are still some things that confuse me, but I'm LOVING lemmy. I love finding more of my subs that have migrated, or creating them and finding new content to add to them.
Reddit used to be a hobby, something fun, rabbit holes to dive into. Then at some point I stopped actively searching for cool niche subs and just kept scrolling the same front page. It had its uses but it was doomscrolling.
With Lemmy I'm like excited to post content again, which I never really did, and I'm finding myself commenting a lot more. I think I'll end up switching from Reddit permanently.
After the way Reddit treated devs & users they lost me, I think many others feel the same. Fediverse community is building nicely, once niche communities/magazines start populating there will be no going back
I genuinely hope so. I think it's a great foundation so far
In my opinion? We just make posts here, and some people might come.
I doubt forcing people onto the website will work, but simply being a better community than reddit might do the trick.
While the absolute numbers of users that make the switch will probably be small for the foreseeable future, I still think they will make an impact. On Reddit, more than 90% of users never contribute anything. Those will stay there and keep making up the big numbers. But the users that migrate to the fediverse were the ones that posted, commented, moderated and voted on Reddit. If even a small percentage of those leave, it will have a fast greater impact on Reddit than the mere user numbers suggest.
I still intend to use Reddit on the desktop but they have absolutely lost my mobile time… that has now been given to Lemmy & Mastodon.
I suspect that it's too early to tell as yet. i've noticed some instability since the lemmy.world update (my home instance) but have noticed similar weirdness on other instances of the same version of lemmy.
Lemmy is still young and at an early development stage. With the huge number of new users and content generated the code is being pushed to it's limits and bugs are popping up.
But this influx of users brings also new people to help out with the development.
A million or more people leaving will not have that big of an effect on its own, no. Since most of the people who left were the people who actually cared though will eventually make a difference. Everything that's wrong with Reddit now is going to get 10 times worse. Popular subs will be overrun with trolls and spam. Mods won't care anymore since no one apparently cared about the work they did. Eventually it will turn into a marketing tool for shitty bands to sell albums, and scammers to rip people off like Myspace did so long ago.
It might take a year or two or even 5 before it is unrecognizable, and that will be now Reddit ends. No one will care by then. It probably won't even make the news
reddit has proved to be a jugernaut due to the multiple diasporas it survived in the last decade+ and also because it's much easier for noobs to use and get hooked than the fediverse; so leaving it can only impact you.
You know, I don't think I mattered that much to Reddit at large. I mostly lurked and occasionally posted.
But I don't need Lemmy to be as sprawling as Reddit.. The people are nice, the topics are interesting, and I'm finding instances that I want to subscribe to every day.
I'm ok with it.. Reddit can burn or just go on without me. I'm happy here.
I personally removed all my comments and deleted my account. It’s a barely a dent for Reddit but at least I won’t be able to go back because that means starting to sub to all the subs I did in the past.
If Lemmy doesn’t make it then I’ll at least know we tried
I still have Reddit links defaulted to open in RIF. Whenever I hit one, RIF loads empty. It's like spez ensured I have a Reddit blocker installed 👍
Nah its already transitioned from "hope this protest changes their minds so we can go back" to "im excited to see this place replace them completely"
I think the fediverse communities are already proving themselves to be of significantly higher quality than reddit. The main difficulty I see is that I don't know if lemmy/kbin provide a good way to maintain cross-instance communities at the moment. I'd like to avoid fragmenting niche communities across them.
I don't think so. Look at the cesspool that is Facebook, yet still has billions of users. Personally I don't care if the riff raff stay there. Tens of thousands of deleted comments and thousands of deleted posts, and I just don't care about leaving after 15 years.
I wonder what the actual engagement is for those FB users, I only have a few friends post on there. Majority use it for marketplace and messenger, only one of those get ads. I'm sure many signed up and don't use it in third world countries where internet isn't consistent. I've never seen a breakdown of meta users and I'm sure there's a good reason for them not wanting to share that.
@ersanmartin I set up my account here during the shutdown protests because I was an Apollo user and before then Reddit was just getting worse. There isn't anything there that I need and I didn't feel like sticking around while f u/spez trashed the place so he can cash out and buy his island. On the one hand, I'm not anti-corporate per se but he can monetize someone else. Looking forward, I'm still figuring out Kbin and the fediverse but it feels very refreshing and new. As someone said, its like when the internet was new and great that there are communities that are being established from the ground up and people will, over time, be attracted to that.
@ersanmartin Honestly probably not, but it doesn't immediately have to either. In my opinion it's already a viable alternative to Reddit, so that's already a win.
Kbin & Lemmy (and others) can just keep developing and maturing as a platform, while Reddit keeps making bad decisions in the future because you know they will, and it'll be there, for those who want to come over.
I left reddit last night and I'm not looking back. Deleted all my posts and logged out.
Hopefully more people come over naturally over the next few weeks and months. It'll probably never have the 400+m user reach that Reddit has, but getting 100k - 1m active users seems pretty attainable.
I think for a lot of us, it will be a long time before we fully abandon it. I'll personally probably always use it as an information source.
I stopped logging in to my account though, I deleted the links from my bookmarks, I got rid of RES, and I obviously deleted the apps from my phone. It's no different from something like Quora to me now. I'll go there if it has the answer to the question I need, but I'm not scrolling when bored and I'm not helping anyone with problems on it or sharing useful/interesting items on it.
The important thing for me is that I'm not contributing to the platform. Maybe, others will do the same.
I dont care for any change as long as I have a good community
Honestly, no, not a chance in hell. But I left anyway for my sake in the hope something new comes along. I dont think this is it, but maybe in the future. I think if you leave, do it for you not to make a change. If change happens then great, it not you can stay sane :)