At a recent conference that featured a sitting state senator, so-called “TEXIT” supporters celebrated their movement’s incremental gains.
WACO — Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.
No taxes or Faucis, no speed zones or toll roads. No liberals, no gun laws. No windmills, no poor people. A separate currency, stock market and gold depository. “Complete control of our own immigration policy.” World-class college football, a farewell to regulators. And unthinkable, unimaginable wealth.
“We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we're going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”
“The independence of Texas is good for humanity as a whole,” he added to cheers.
Kamau-Imani, a Houston-based preacher, was among 100 or so people who spent the weekend at the Waco Convention Center for the first conference of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which since 2005 has advocated for the Lone Star State to break away from the United States — a “TEXIT,” as they call it.
Supporters of the movement said they are more energized and optimistic than ever about the prospect of an independent Texas, and pointed to appearances or support from current and former lawmakers — including state Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, who spoke at the event — as evidence that their movement is far from fringe. The get-together also came as TEXIT supporters celebrated what they believe is crucial momentum: Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.
"We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we're going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years."
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Oh, he's serious. Where would the food come from? Because Texas is terrible for farming. You can't live off of beef.
Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.
Texas seceding would be peak FAFO entertainment if it weren't for all the innocent people who would get fucked over. It'd be like the US's own little brexit.
Yeah, this is very much not the threat they think it is, and if anything it would go even worse than brexit and that's already one of the worst clusterfucks in recent history. All it would take is less than a year later when everyone is starving and freezing to death yet again due to Texas shit power infrastructure failing during winter storms for these morons to maybe finally realize they are in fact the problem. Or maybe not, they're still in deep deep denial about all kinds of things.
Fair point, but secession is only something Texas politicians bring up to win easy political points with these kinds of people. It gets tossed around all the time, especially when things don't go their way in elections, and these rubes eat it up. They would never vote on it seriously.
The politicians know it would be economic and political suicide, because Texas does not have the infrastructure to be autonomous, unlike the UK, which was autonomous before joining the EU.
Lol oh my god I genuinely hope they try it - especially if it becomes a “promised land” for MAGA types and Nationalist Christians. We’ll vote with our feet, and I’m pretty confident the results will be quite unambiguous.
See the bulletpoint that covers the breakdown of agricultural products. There's a reason cattle is over half of Texas agriculture and corn is less than Greenhouse & Nursery:
Also worth noting is that the corn plants produced are quite small compared to places like Illinois and Iowa. The complex soils combined with the generally higher temperatures are not good for produce like corn and wheat, but it is good for cotton (second place for market value, but still much less than cattle). Texas is far from the Breadbasket.
Am agreeing with cowboy. Great state of Texas is independent and strong thinker, like Putin. Must show US their secession in order to live among the free peoples. Certainly they will become very wealthy. I am woman of color who works in factory and is liberal.
Go ahead, this'll be fun.
Let's see, to travel out of your country, you'll need a passport, and for that to be accepted, you'll need a treaty in place
Sure, you've got oil, but you basically need to be part of OPEC to sell it, and they decide price and volume.
To ship anything you produce, you need treaties in place
Ok, but next january or february when the snow wipes out their electrical system, we won't be sending any linemen from the United States to help patch things up.
That's what I was thinking. No US military means they're on their own. Though... It looks like they have their own military that is about 10-15% the size of Mexico's. That's actually nothing to sneeze at, and it would also come down a lot to what the US would leave behind (if anything) in such a scenario.
An independent Texas with leftover US nukes is the nightmare that will be waking me up tonight.
If they succeed well they will accomplish is getting their ass whooped while being invaded by the us, you'd think the last civil war would be a tipoff that you can't succeed.
Texas has been majority white since at least the mid 1800s, but Hispanics have been expected to overtake the majority for some time. Now, new data shows that happened at some time in 2022.
The U.S. Census Bureau updated its official population estimates, and the numbers confirm Latinos have officially made up the largest share of the state’s population since at least last July.
Lloyd Potter, state demographer of Texas and director of the Texas Demographic Center, said Hispanic Texans made up 40.2% of the state’s population last summer, edging out non-Hispanic white Texans, who made up 39.8%.
“When we look at demographic and population change, there’s what we refer to as components of population change,” Potter said. “The three major components are births, deaths and net migration. So when we look at and when we compare population change between the non-Hispanic white population and the Hispanic population, the dynamics of those elements are different.”
For example, Hispanics tend to have higher birth rates than the non-Hispanic white population, Potter said.
A blatant lie.
In 2020, 66% of the voting population actually voted - and this was a record high!
Of those, 46.48% voted for Biden/Harris.
So that's just under 1/3rd, or 30.68% of the voting population of Texas.
Now, do I feel for these folks? Yes.
Is it terrible that they're being disenfranchised by their state and local governments at every turn? Also yes.
Is this going to make me feel at all bad if the state whose main claim to fame is keeping slavery going an extra 2 years splits off, only to get gobbled up by Mexico?
These fools are severely underestimating how much value comes with being part of the US. There's are just too many advantages being in a strong economic union like the United States. Its cities especially would have their population leaving in droves. Of course, none of these prosperity gospel preachers are going to have Texas go anywhere. The South already tried that once, and it didn't turn out so well for them did it?
The libertarians will get what they want: freedom from taxes and public services like police, courts, insurance regulations, you know, stuff nobody needs.
WACO — Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.
For years, experts have thrown cold water on Miller’s movement, saying that secession is patently illegal and unconstitutional, and would be economically catastrophic for the United States and Texas alike.
(Miller vociferously disagrees, arguing that there is no constitutional ban on secession and that the post-Civil War court case often cited by experts — Texas v. White — is also unclear on the issue).
And the event's lineup included Hall, the Edgewood senator, who discussed “securing” Texas’ elections and power grid, and Kyle Biedermann, a former state representative who in 2021 proposed putting a referendum on secession to voters.
Packed in a small exhibit hall between amateur knife traders, book publishers and essential oil sellers, they commiserated in their intense distrust of government – a sentiment that they said has become more normalized since the COVID-19 pandemic, to the boon of their movement.
Beyond grievances about federal overreach and corporate welfare, though, few attendees offered concrete details on what a new Texas nation would look like, or how it would operate or confront the many intractable economic, cultural or political problems that could follow.
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