Trump 2.0: The climate cannot survive another Trump term

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but....... biden signed more oil drilling contracts than trump did.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/06/biden-is-approving-more-oil-gas-drilling-permits-public-lands-than-trump-analysis-finds/
can it survive another bullshit neolib puppet? we need progressives, not corporate lib shills.
DISCLAIMER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON’T UNDERSTAND YOU CAN AND SHOULD CRITICIZE YOUR OWN PARTY WITHOUT SUPPORTING THE OTHER: I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN.
- Your name and comment are deeply ironic, given the Stalin purges
Can’t survive another Biden term either. It’s the planet or capitalism and the people in charge would rather kill us all than end capitalism.
- What he's been able to do has been limited by the most conservative Democrat whose vote was needed to pass legislation.
  Get a better congress along with a Biden reelection, and it puts us into the we-stand-a-chance range
- Correct me if I'm wrong but their military is a huge polluter, and I don't see that as being something either side would change due to the politics around fucking with the military, so it's even more of a problem on top of the already massive problem that is capitalism
  
  Biden has started going down the road of electricifying the military. But of course, slimming down the military is the kind of holy cow neither mainstream party would touch. We are seeing a quasi-worldwide military push anyway, which is unsurprising in the wider context of missing global climate action.
As someone who isn't from that country, the climate can't survive more USA, who's running it doesn't seem to make much difference.
(Not that they're the only country causing this global disaster of course, just the one highlighted in this post)
- From another outsiders perspective the difference seems to be that the Democrats invest in green technologies, whereas the Republicans do not. Both support fossil fuels thou.
The climate is just not going to survive period. Democrats also don't have the will to do anything on this topic.
- The climate will be fine, we however, are fucked.
  
  Humans survive better than most animals. What do you think the world will look like if not even the apex species will survive?
My fellow Americans, Tuesday is an election day. Get off your asses and vote. I will be making a post Tuesday.
- The satisfaction of... checks notes fucking over yourself?
The climate will be just fine (give or take a few tens of thousands of years). It's us and all complex organisms above a certain size that are fucked.
- Can't make any assumptions one way or another. We're dealing with positive feedback loops, so even if humans all get Thanos-snapped out of existence RIGHT NOW putting a full stop to emissions, pollution, etc, the environment will continue to worsen on its own because of the downward spirals we've set into motion.
  The question is how long those feedback loops can go until they're broken naturally; or if they even can be broken naturally.
  We may well have set our planet on a warming path that ends with it being molten, or one that sheds our atmosphere into space.
  So... things might fix themselves after we go extinct; or it'll get worse until even the most resilient of extremophiles can't carry on, and Earth becomes another lifeless rock floating in space.
  /shrug
  
  That's true. We couldve pulled a Venus, which would suck massive donkey balls.
- This is the correct answer
It can't survive capitalists, period. That includes both US parties who publicly pledge their souls to capitalism.
- Most Americans actually support measures to deal with it:
  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-32412-y
  https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/poll-solar-wind-climate-change-rcna119244
  We just have to get loud about it and demand officials at all levels act. We have to get loud and make polluting as acceptable as open racism.
MORE fear porn, Kbin? No thanks, I've had quite enough.