It's a thing I see here in the US all the time. I live in Chicago. Have friends and colleagues from nearly every corner of the globe.
For some weird reason, kids of immigrants can swing real hard towards hating other immigrants. It's pure selfishness. They're one of the good people. We shouldn't be letting in the dirty poors trying to move in now.
One lady I know moved here from Greece at 5. She has teenage daughters. Yuge Trump fan. I asked one time what she would do if one of her daughters dated a known serial sex abuser and rapist. She of course was horrified at the thought. So I then asked why she would vote for such a person as President. And that was different because he's trying to "fix things" like all the illegal immigrants coming here.
My former brother-in-law is the kid of Scandinavian immigrants. Also likes Trump. Also hates all the brown people immigration.
Chinese coworker. Nicest lady in the world. Hates immigrants with a passion.
Easily dozens more I could list. It's all anecdotal of course. But it's something about conservative people in general having a brain malfunction when it comes to empathy. Maybe science will figure out how to help them eventually.
The difference between Braverman and a pantomime villain is that she actually has the power to make this stuff happen. It remains to be seen if these are just empty words, but it's definitely worth reporting that a government minister intends to start putting people in prison for being destitute.
Well it’s mostly empty words so far. Most of the things she said she’s going to do have no basis in Law - as I suspect she suspect she knows - she hasn’t got much in the table in terms of changing that, in the little time she has left.
She’s not above performative cruelty, but the reality she says lots horrible things and enacts few of them.
Not enough room in prison. Perhaps they could build some sort of accommodation where you could concentrate all these people. They could be housed and work, all under one roof.
Call it 'House of Work' or something similar.
Giving then useful work would make them free of all their other problems.
There are definitely homeless people who are very, very difficult to help, resist efforts to help them and in a way are homeless as a lifetsyle choice. But a vast majority of homeless people are not there by choice, but by circmunstances. They need help, not their last vestige of shelter ripped away.
If Suella and the tories genuinely cared about solving this issue they'd be funding more hostel places, more drug treatment programmes and more social care. But they don't, so they won't. It's not a coincidence that homelessness fell dramatically under the last Labour gov, while it's skyrocketed under the tories.
There are definitely homeless people who are very, very difficult to help, resist efforts to help them and in a way are homeless as a lifetsyle choice.
I agree with this. But also at least some portion of the people within this group are there because the only other "choice" offered to them is: "Full-time employment in order to pay a landlord for a place to sleep."
While there definitely are some homeless people whom are very difficult to help for various reasons, I think at least one of the reasons that some are so resistant to help is because there is an assumption about what "help" looks like that goes completely unquestioned.
there is an assumption about what “help” looks like that goes completely unquestioned.
100%. A lot of the hostels have a very strict 'no drugs' policy which, while I understand why, is simply no help to any homeless people with a substance abuse issue... which iirc, and speaking from my own experience interacting with homeless people (I was living on the streets myself at 15 and 17 so try to sit and chat when I can) accounts for a large percentage.
Another one that really boils my piss is Emmaus. They make a big song and dance about how they're helping people get off the streets, but you can't claim benefits while 'working' for Emmaus. So they get free labour, and the people they're 'housing' are then stuck at Emmaus because they have no income and no benefits. At least, that's what I found when I dug into it a few years back.
I think Suella Braverman should make the lifestyle choice to be forcibly removed from parliament, evicted, and spat on in the street. What a piece of shit.
The home secretary, Suella Braverman, has described rough sleeping as a “lifestyle choice” while defending her decision to restrict the use of tents by homeless people on the streets of Britain.
According to Whitehall insiders, Braverman plans to crack down on tents that cause a nuisance in urban areas such as high streets – amid growing numbers of rough sleepers and what the government considers a rise in antisocial behaviour.
The home secretary has also proposed the introduction of a civil offence, which could lead to charities being fined if they provide homeless people with tents, the Financial Times reported.
There are options for people who don’t want to be sleeping rough, and the government is working with local authorities to strengthen wraparound support including treatment for those with drug and alcohol addiction.
“This combined with decades of government failure to build genuinely affordable social homes is what is driving record levels of homelessness and leaving thousands of people on the streets.
Braverman’s planned policies are being considered for the government’s legislative programme, which will be outlined in the king’s speech on Tuesday, people with knowledge of the proposals said, and could be included in two clauses to be inserted in a new criminal justice bill applying to England and Wales.
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