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I was going to summon you but of course you're already on top of it. I swear you're like 1/2 of all posts and comments
- I'm always around. Watching. Waiting.

I'm starting to consider watching it because it's about half of what I see here lol

Edit : I am enjoying TOS so far, not very far in though.

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If you do decide to take the plunge, much of trek has been remastered, TNG (the series that came after Shatner’s Kirk in the Original Series) for example was redone and got a Blu-ray release.

Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run. So the community stepped in to fill this need.

I’ve gone thru many AI remasters and they have gotten better and better. Utr/Joybell used to be the best for DS9 until somewhat recently, but they have all been a little rough around the edges.

Enter DS9, Redefined; this project in my opinion is many steps above in terms of quality. The person running that project has finished a remaster for all of DS9 and is currently working on Voyager (almost done with s1 I think). If you click that link, you can check out some of the footage and screenshots they provide (shown with a slider so you can easily compare source with remake)

Join their discord, and go to the #instructions channel, there is an ftp server for all completed episodes; you don’t need to run the workflows yourself on the source eps yourself

Enjoy old trek in a more clear and vibrant experience, the first time :)
- Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run.
  
  The reason for that, by the way, is that while TNG was shot on film (from which more detail could be extracted using new technology), DS9 and Voyager were at least partially mastered directly on videotape (especially the CGI effects) and thus there was no higher-quality source to pull from to begin with.
- Have you compared it to other upscales? there is a 720p from icecracked that looks excellent and to my knowledge even beats redefined by a noticeable margin.
- That looks pretty good at first. I am a huge DS9 fan. But upon closer examination with those sliders, it looks like it's just brighter. That's it. Am I wrong?
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- Aye much appreciated, will look at it later when I got some free time.
- Thank you for this!!!
You absolutely should, it's a glorious bottomless rabbithole.
It's a fun series! The fandom has been going strong for nearly 60 years at this point.

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You've made Kevin happy

You guys are why I started watching the Orville, bless your souls!

The Orville is amazing, especially the third season!
- I'm halfway through the second, and wow am I enjoying it. Some episodes have super profound plots, and other episodes are super heavy. I love Seth McFarlane's humor too so it's a really enjoyable watch for me.

Honestly though, so grateful for the content they contribute

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alright trekkis, ima bite the bullet, where is an easy way to start?

If you have literally no experience at all, I'd pick and choose some great standalone episodes to get started with.

Some ideas: TOS: Balance of terror/Space seed. TNG: Drumhead/Darmok. DS9: The House of Quark/Trials and tribulations (harder to find good standalone episodes as so many of the best are part of the main plot. VOY: Eye of the Needle/The Void.

The 2 parter DS9 and voyager opening episodes are both also pretty good places to start.
- I started with the Voyager pilot, it's so great. It sets up an incredible premise that is so much more compelling than "we are explorers", at least in my opinion. The whole series has an arc that is integral to every episode in a way that truly doesn't get old.
  
  I mean... I started with that, my best friend in my first year of high school showed me the first few seasons, and then I pretty much didn't watch more until now, _mumble years later, when I decided to go through the whole of Voyager. It's genuinely a very good show. There's some stuff in there that I'll put down to TV restrictions - low budget and tight schedules mean you can't close every plot hole - but it's got a lot of heart. It shows people being mature and dealing with their problems, and just openly saying how much they care about each other on a regular basis, which I love.
  
  Just like... be aware that there are things that haven't aged well. The three biggest I can think of are:
  
  Chakotay's character being played by a non-indigenous person and the indigenous consultant actually being a fraud, which leads to some extremely awkward pastiches of indigenous culture.
  
  Kes being "born sexy yesterday".
  
  The generally exploitative way women are dressed and treated in the whole show. Kes is put in a catsuit, then soon after replaced with 7 of 9 in a catsuit. Plus in general they'll just shove women in bikinis on screen at their first chance, or even when no chance presented itself at all. For a show that does a lot of openly-feminist stuff with its female captain that insists on being called "captain" over "sir" or "ma'am" and who generally kicks butt, it has a lot of sexism that seems even more dated than the 90s era it was made in.
  
  Even so, amazing show.
The Next Generation and then Deep Space 9. You could start with the Original series but it's not necessary to understand the events of the TNG/Voyager/DS9 era of time.

TNG has some absolutely awful episodes in the beginning and the first two seasons aren't really considered very good by most, but once they find their footing it's pretty consistent with only the rare complete miss. Deep Space 9 is a really good one though, I passed it up for years because it didn't take place on a starship but that only allowed for a completely different style of storytelling with recurring characters and interwoven plot lines.
The easy way to start is with TNG. And you can skip the bad episodes. Especially in the first two seasons. It takes until the third season to really find its fitting.
Right at the beginning. Chronological. Don't skip anything, even the shit episodes

If you can't stomache the old stuff, any of the new trek series are pretty darn good to be honest. I'm especially fond of Strange New Worlds. It captures the adventure of the week style well, just like the old series.
- from the start it is, thank you