Proton Pass is now available

I’m a faithful Bitwarden user. No need to switch

Tempting. I've been using Bitwarden for awhile now and it's been fantastic. I am not sure I need to switch.

I wish that proton would focus on the depth of their present stack, as opposed to breadth.

I've been begging for rclone support for proton drive for a long time now.. without it, I basically have 1tb sitting there useless.

I'm pretty sure the app is great, but I am not a fan of putting all my eggs in the same basket. I will keep using Bitwarden for the time being.

Thought this was about Valve's Wine fork and was very confused 😅

Any strong reasons to switch from KeePassXC?

Proton is starting to loose focus in my opinion. I've been a costumer for 5 years only using email and I moved this year to fastmail and I couldn't be happier. Unlimited emails alias, good apps, ability to use thunderbird without a self hosted bridge.

The promise of a encrypted email does not work if your contacts are not on proton too (for me was 100% of my contacts).

If you are really focused on privacy you would choose nextcloud for cloud for example and keypass or Bitwarden for password managers.

I would like them to focus on email client features and stop this side hustles.

Unless I just miss it: it's not self-hostable, right? So it's open source but currently requires their infrastructure to be usable?

This company is a love hate relationship.

They make good products, but they promise release dates over and over again, and miss them by 2+ years.

They also fuck people over by releasing apps to only their visionary memberships. Like okay. Guess my $150/month doesn't mean shit because I'm not visionary? Glad to wait 8 months for the beta to trickle down to me..

Still waiting on the ProtonMail Android app to be remade, and ProtonDrive Windows desktop app.

Edit: wait, I need a business plan to use this? What?

Ya, I'll stick to my $1.30 CAD per month for BitWarden over the $6 for this.

I advice anyone against switching for now, especially if you're using KeePass or Bitwarden. Proton Pass has just been released, meaning it is not audited and it's immature. I would not trust it with my passwords just yet.

Has anyone tried it yet? Two downsides for me:

• there's no desktop app
• there's no Safari desktop extension (I know most people don't care about this)

It's also more expensive than Bitwarden even at €1/mth

Goodbye LastPass (I'm aware I should have migrated already but I was holding out for this)

@protonmail Proton claims to be a privacy oriented company and yet their email app doesn't show push notifications without Google Play Services means you will either have to use Google Play Services or live without push notifications (if you are using a degoogled phone). If Tutanota app could show push notifications without Google Play Services, it is definitely possible. What a joke!!

I was in the beta of it, didn't use it though as i am on 1password.

For me it's important that i have a desktop application. I don't want to open my fcking webbrowser anytime i need a password or want to edit some credentials.

And they simply don't have one. I gave it as feedback and they say it's on their roadmap. I said they should take 1passwords desktop as inspiration as it works so fcking good; I really love that floating quick search that you can summon with a keycombo.

Awesome! How does it compare to BitWarden?

Is it open source though?

Great that it has an email alias feature built in. But I use 1Password and to me it's been so great that it'd be really hard to convince me switching to something else.

I tried it and its pretty cool and polished, but Bitwarden is WAY better in every poseible way.

If they're going to try to compete with Bitwarden they could at least offer 2FA for free instead of paywalling it as a feature. It was disappointing when Bitwarden did it, and it's even more disappointing with Proton - it's like failing an open book test.

Been using Bitwarden for a few years now, but this one looks tempting. I suppose it has better UI and integrated 2FA sounds nice. Also I’m already a Proton Mail subscriber, so it could be nice addition to the ecosystem.

I’m all for open source alternatives to bitwarden but this is non competitive with a mandatory subscription fee. Bitwarden is completely free for most users.

2FA is a paid feature!

Th email protection is nice, but my one of my mails is already full of spam, so I don't care any more and just use that when I don't trust..

I use keepassXC and Ive never had a problem with it, Is there anything different about Proton Pass?

What does 2FA authenticator mean? Is it a vault to store your 2FA seeds?