For myself, mostly using KeePassXC. ProtonPass exists just as a backup for extremely important accounts, in the event where I somehow lost all of my KeePass files stored on all my devices lol.
That said, I do agree that Bitwarden (or most other clients) is probably way superior than ProtonPass itself. I do wish that they had focused on improving their other applications (Mail, Drive. VPN), rather than try to compete in the password manager space...
For my own stuff, I do prefer Bitwarden over Proton Pass. Simply because having a lot of stuff in Proton and if then ending up being locked out feels like a too high risk.
I even have some stuff in https://www.passwordstore.org/ where it's synchronised to some (encrypted) locations and internal storage servers ... especially stuff which can help me if I get locked out of Bitwarden.
Don't put all your eggs into the same basket. Avoid the SPOF.
That said, for Proton accounts where I'm the admin - I would recommend Proton Pass these days, as it provides ease of convenience. Where less technical users has only one "platform" to relate to. If these users gets locked out; I have a chance to help them recovering again.
As a Mail Plus subscriber, this makes me angry because I have no way to even buy Proton Pass without paying for the full Unlimited Plan (which I don't need).
Probably my biggest complaint with Proton is how little they focus on their paying subscribers that bought in for the products that existed at the time. They've brought out 3 more apps before making the first 2 really great.
As someone who has used it from near the start, I'm perfectly fine with how they've treated me.
Gave me more storage on anniversaries, locked in discounts, keep improving solid products, etc.
They could certainly focus more on Linux products but overall I'm quite happy as is even. Mail UI vastly improved, calendar works though I use it little, etc. Jmho
@Scrollone@stifle867 it doesn’t seem very professional or well run. Reminds me a little of Mozilla. Both focus on many thinks and do an average (to bad) job rather than doing fewer things with a focus on excellence.
Lol you have to be kidding. I signed up less than a month ago. Proton Pass's killer feature is it can generate an email address kinda like addy and fastmail do. for example you might chess.1310fj@passinbox.com for chess.com.
It's still fairly rough though. It misses lots of login fields that bitwarden didn't, but I expect it'll improve. In the time I've had it, they addressed a frequently requested feature, which is allowing webapps. It's not an official one, but you can open the extension in a window, copy the url and make a webapp from that. So it feels a little half backed but for the price it really is a solid value.
Also I really like that there's no tinkering required to integrate the fake emails it creates with your proton mailbox. You can reply to an email sent to your fake email address, and the person who sent the email will see it as though it came from your fake address. This can be a pain in the ass.
That said, I've had two websites reject my proton pass emails, netbird.io (which is ironic for a purported privacy focused business), and Oracle cloud, which is not surprising at all.
I tried to sign up with Ente photos and never got a verification code.
The only one that didn't accept my proton pass emails.
Very ironic, since Ente is big on privavy too
Yeah it really sets the stage poorly. Netbird is messed up in that it accepts the email and makes you think everything is working, except your admin panel doesn't have anything in it. I spent hours troubleshooting before knowing anything was off.
Ugh, this is tough. I've been waiting to try to on board my wife from Bitwarden, which has been working well for us for years, but I've been waiting until Pass was at least almost as mature as Bitwarden. But a free year....
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