The people who see the protest as a failure were many of the users who used the official app, default settings, and seldom if ever contributed to the site. They were never going to leave anyway.
Look how many people came here, and there is a noticeable decrease in the number of bots and trolls. I see this as a huge win for us users.
Edit: Just realized this is ambiguous. There's noticeably fewer bots and trolls here on Lemmy than there were on reddit.
I don't know, my brother has been a Redditor for as long as I was (15 years) and he became angry and hostile when I told him about Lemmy. We're both in our 50s.
He's been using the official Reddit app for years and claims it "works perfectly for him". He seems utterly blind to Reddit's enshittificaton. He's always been kind of an asshole- he behaved the same when I quit Facebook, though he eventually did the same- and he also fears new tech (he didn't have a smartphone until 2020). I wonder if people like him- of which I'm sure there are plenty- will ever wake up.
"powerless" just use Lemmy it's not like there's really anything meaningful to hold you on Reddit, afaik people don't really make friends on Reddit or anything
Did anyone else actually watch the video? It's inaccurate in places and is biased towards Reddit (e.g. claims that Apollo had no backend costs). Also, it misspelled the CEO's name as "Steve Hoffman."
Overall, this is the first post I've seen that makes me wish Beehaw had a downvote button.
It feels like realizing that WhatsApp is a terrible Meta privacy nightmare, but you can't wake up because you can't convince your whole family to use Signal.
Telling people they need to quit Reddit is not realistic. People are more likely to respond if we give them easy and realistic advice.
The most realistic course for most people is to join a few alternative communities that match your values. Join a Lemmy instance, join a Mastodon instance, etc.
Sign up for a new community; a Lemmy instance for example.
Take a few minutes to sign into the new community on all your device, you want it to be as easy as possible to start using the new community.
Prefer to use the new community whenever possible. When you're bored and going through the usual websites (you know what they are), visit the new community first, move Reddit to the bottom of the list. Avoid using Reddit, but don't stress too much if you end up there occasionally, just give preference to everything else.
This advice is not too intimidating, anyone can act on it, and even if only a few people act on it, it's still effective for those few people. This plan has everything it needs to be effective and spread.
Wow. That video is terrible. At first, I thought it might be a useful perspective because it took reddit’s views into account. At the end, though, he didn’t even mention reddit’s insulting, adversarial attitude, or the fact that reddit is threatening to replace mods who continue to protest.
I learn a lot from opposing viewpoints, but I can’t trust something that’s presented as a documentary style “deep dive” and turns out to be so biased. If someone is relying on deception and lies of omission, yet presenting themselves as neutral, I can only wonder what else they’re lying about.
My growing concern for this community surviving is that it develops its own identity. My fear is that it's becoming a dumping ground for Reddit infighting and not much else. Obviously, it's early days still, but I don't quite remember this when migrating over from Digg years ago. I feel like the community mostly just made fun of Digg and went on to post new and engaging content. This feels different, and not in a good way.
No user of Reddit is powerless. Every single user of Reddit has the power to fuck with Reddit in whatever legal way they want, and they also they have the power to quit using Reddit.
powerless? Reddit has like 0% of my daily Mindshare and I have here now which doesn't really feel meaningfully different in any negative way, only positive ones!
I like to think I had the power to change my life for the better in this aspect, and I did
All the worthwhile content creators will (or already have) move on and it'll be even more of AI generated content circlejerk than it already is. No one should feel sorry for lurkers being lazy.
The only issue with the dynamic is that Redditors were too fixated with their position as “moderator” and were willing to acquiesce just to keep it. If they simply refused the free labor they’re giving a corporation who’s seeking profit by near any cost, they’d have had impact.
I´m genuienely baffled why the mods of those protesting subs didn´t, at least as a backup plan, also created an alternative community on here right away. Sure, in the beginning, they might have hoped the protests could work. But even after the first two days blackuot, it was pretty clear that Reddit didn´t care at all. So why even fight this fight and not just go "Well, have fun without us Reddit. And here´s a tutorial on how to join us over at lemmy."
EDIT: I know some did. r/piracy I believe were pretty open about packing up and moving to lemmy. And as the days go by, more and more "stuff" I used Reddit for also pops up on some lemmy server or another. Still, an at least fairly organized move would have been nice.