A historic number of Americans prefer neither President Biden nor former President Trump be elected president in 2024, according to a new CNN/SSRS poll. The survey found that 33 percent favored Tru…
"The choice is between two terrible people. One is actively trying to kill me and the other doesn't care if I die." --A old post I'm unable to find but truly sums up american politics.
To be fair, I didn't want Biden the first time either. He just happened to be not Trump. I'll vote Biden again, but I'm not pleased those are my only (real) options. We really need ranked choice voting here in the US....
It's funny how we all forget that JB ran as a "place holder" candidate to begin with and said he had no desire or intention to run for a second term. The thought was that by now one of the other primary candidates (Klobachar, Harris and Buttigieg) would have gotten tapped and run on Biden's behest. There was clearly a king maker deal cut so that they would all drop out and throw their support behind him to cut off Sanders momentum. They combined this with a media "bombshell" that Clyburn backed Biden over Sanders, after telegraphing support for Sanders previously. This combination of factors was snowballed into a media blitz that never let up and pushed Biden to the top seemingly by just repeating itself ad nauseam.
Still though, the tap for the next in line never came and the old guard stays in place again just by merely having a pulse. Dems have once again squandered full control and couldn't cobble together any protections from a clear and present danger in radicalized right political zealots. We could all argue about the spoilers and that we couldn't re-do the filibuster but I'm sure a couple million could have been back channeled to make that happen. They didn't want it to.
At the knifes edge is exactly where they want us to be and they will take full fascism over even moderate movement toward actual implemented progressive policy. Now they will tell you up and down that they want things like student loan forgiveness or clean energy policy with teeth, but they will never implement it in a way that ensures it's survival. It's just platitudes that are built to fail and "vote for us harder and we'll get it done next time."
I'm so tired of this political system where we've been held hostage for the better part of 2 decades. All the while our hopes for a meaningful America just slips further by and we're powerless to stop it. The only option we're presented is to press a pause button for 4 years so that we can have permission to feel ok until the election starts again in 2 years. I would take a rouge sentient AI resting control of the country and threatening our nuclear destruction, unless we do as were told, over this. At least then it would probably make at least some meaningful strides to correcting the course of our nihilistic self destruction.
I don't see how this is a particularly meaningful finding. Republicans hate Biden, and Democrats loathe Trump, so it's unlikely ANYONE on either side would be hoping for a rematch.
'Historic' number of people don't want this thing happening for the first time to happen.
Wow, such history!
Hopefully Desantis and Trump spend much of their money, time, and effort shitting all over one another to lessen the chance of fascist scum finding their way back into the Whitehouse.
Biden has been the best President we've had in 30 years.
He's exactly who we needed when we got him.
He got us out of Afghanistan. As much as a debacle as it was, he not Trump and not Obama pulled us out.
His deft handling of the Ukrainian conflict where he used soft-power and influence to let the EU and NATO members come to decision to enact the super harsh sanctions themselves. Knowing that if the US pressed, they'd resist. It had to be their decision. He's continued to say and do all of the right things.
His attempt to forgive student loans his huge. Some of the measures worked even if all of them didn't.
He got the most meaningful infrastructure bill passed that I've ever witness. Neither Trump nor Obama could make it happen and Biden did it with a split Congress
That infrastructure bill was also the most meaningful environment legislation that we've ever had
That bill also paves the way for significant investment in our broad-band across the country
Passed the Safer Communities Act ...actual gun related legislation since the Brady bill. Again, with a split congress.
Gave us our first public defender SCOTUS justice. This might not seem like a big deal but I think its pretty significant given the amount of case law that exists that, so far, hasn't had a public defenders 'say' in it.
I could go on but I gotta go eat dinner.
People want to shit on Biden, but I actually like him. He's not perfect, but he's been insanely effective given everything he walked in to. Including him diligently and quietly rebolstering the executive branches that were gutted and had people leaving in droves in the last admin. Eg the Department of State. He's assigned quality folks into key roles and its making a difference.
I voted for him without hesitation because well, the alternative was terrifying, but I was not expecting much from him at all. He's surprised me.
edit: I literally can't figure out how to make this a list. Sorry for the wordblob.
Biden has done a better job than I expected, but he should clearly retire. I think this is a huge, and almost necessary opportunity for Democrats. Incumbents are way more likely to get reelected. Since Trump has pissed off too many people, and he'll sabotage any other front runners for his party.
Wouldn't it make sense to get someone younger and a little bolder in now for the Dema? They have a very strong likelihood to win this round, and then they'll be the incumbents next term. We could finally replace some garbage supreme court members.
Those same Americans will just ignore that there are other candidates and it'll be yet another presidential election where 49% of voters claim that they don't really support the person they vote for, and that you have to do the same as a moral imperative.
And, as it's been since Reagan, no matter who we elect we'll only get conservative outcomes.
As a representative democracy we are doing it wrong when none of the candidates represent the majority. They represent business and special interests that's it.
That being said republicans are in the pockets of the most backwards ass religious folks.. So that's is definitely worse when they continue to shit on our constitution for that group.
"Biden remains the top contender among Democrats, however, and Trump’s lead over the other GOP contenders widened following his federal indictment earlier this month."
Given that one is the clear favorite among Democrats, and the other is the favorite among Republicans, it'd be perverse if we didn't get a rematch between them, unless that changes between now and the election.
This is how it is supposed to work in a two-party system. The favorites of each party get to compete. If there were somebody else who was the favorite of their party, they'd get to compete.
If it were a different system (e.g. a parliamentary system), then the rules would be different. Although tbh when I look across the pond to the UK, I can't say they consistently do a better job picking leaders than we do.
Honestly I could do without the gerontocracy. Those plotting the course of the future should have a stake in it, you know? What the fuck does an 80-year-old care if they fuck up the future? They're not going to be around to face the consequences.
The impressive part is that we have two less popular candidates than Trump and Hillary. And that election had people wishing for a meteor to end the earth.
Well there already almost a dozen republican candidates, we just need to collectively back one or two that aren’t Trump. Does anyone have any thoughts on William Hurd who just announced? I don’t know much about him.
Are there any promising Democrats that are running against Biden?
Neither one is likeable. You are going to have people who would normally vote for either party who don't like their candidate, or the other sides candidate. It is a recipe for massive numbers of people not wanting this matchup.
Due to the hyperpolarized political climate, could we not just be seeing the Democrats not wanting to see Trump on the main ticket + Republicans not wanting to see Biden?
I'm of the opinion that Biden is actually an extremely strong candidate and one of the best presidents we've had in decades, a lot of the hate for him is that he's boring and doesn't have the aesthetic of revolutionary thinking that Bernie does.