Fox News' Greg Gutfeld suggests "civil war" because "elections don't work"

Welcome to American media unfortunately.

This guy is a comedian. Not that that was how he was acting in this statement. But that's his background.

He actually wasn't all that terrible 10-15 years ago. He had a show on at 3 am, on Fox News even. The guests were sometimes good too, other funny comedians. Now Greg Gutfeld just sucks. Not funny except to conservatives who find simply shitting on their political opponents the funniest content there ever was. It'd be sad if it wasn't so serious.

"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."

-- Actual quote from an actual Republican

Every right-wing accusation is a confession.

I got the same feeling a lot with Tucker, where he'd say something so specific and so contrary to reality, that there must have been a point to it. I think a part of it is to inoculate the audience against criticism, doubt, and introspection. You flip around, or simply bring up and immediately dismiss what's actually a strong argument against your position, so that people don't take it seriously when it comes up outside of the echo chamber.

Well, to my European eyes it's not strange at all. These are some extreme takes but that's how freedom of expression and press work. My European country has a politician with decades-long career who routinely claims democracy is a bad system, that women should not be allowed to vote etc. Luckily for us the man has near-zero actual power, but still, we can't jail him for talking even if what he says is horrifying.

Honestly we should unite and perform a coordinated attack on fox news, the same way that anonymous took over russian news stations, russian sites, and even hacked russian GPS.

This isn't just a case of freedom of speech, this is mobilising, terrorising and seditious speaking. The US government themselves know best just how powerful this propaganda is, as they've used it themselves against many governments. They're doing the exact same thing at fox news.

, a book written about how the US government destabilised and dissected government's that they viewed as hostile and communist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method

We have known for a long time that fox news creates soviet style propaganda, but now, with Russia being hostile and China semi-hostile, surely they're trying to destabilise at best, start a civil war at worst. Why doesn't the USA do anything to stop this clear and obvious cooperation with the enemy?

Freedom of speech is not freedom to incide sedition. It doesn't protect people from convincing traitor's to pick up their weapons. Fox news should never have won that lawsuit where they claimed "no rational person would believe it" because that's irrelevant. A good portion of Americans (30%+) are irrational. So why discount them? It's like saying "only a criminal would shoot someone if we paid them to do it, therefore when we pay them to do it, it's not our fault". Well yeah, only a criminal would do it, but you still paid them!

The mass shooters come from the pool of Fox News viewers. Dollars to donuts, if Fox News tried a segment tasked with deprogramming the hell spawn they created, the crazies would target the host in a heartbeat.

Oh don't think for one second that they actually want a civil war. A civil war is fought by sides that have fundamental differences in how they want the government to function. Conservatives don't really have any idea how or if they want the government to function. Because if you sit a bunch of conservatives down in a conference room and talk them through their ideal government, writing it all down and asking questions like, "but what if the president is corrupt?" Or "how do we ensure safe, clean drinking water?" they'd wind up basically with what we have now (but maybe with states having more power but maybe even less).

When conservatives barf up words like, "civil war" it's really just a dog whistle. What they really want is an excuse to commit mass murder of black people, immigrants, LGBTQ, etc (all the people they hate and blame for all the problems they create or refuse to fix).

Here's how it would play out: A consensus forms in the conservative crazysphere that civil war is a must then some event happens and the talking heads will declare, "it's a civil war!" and then the crazies with guns will congregate go on a killing spree.

If law enforcement stops them it will end, briefly before it happens again. If law enforcement helps them it'll be a real civil war. That's when things will become real bad for Americans. Severe economic consequences; the dollar will tank. Food and supply shortages will create a lot of desperate people.

Foreign governments will probably straight up invade and claim territories under the excuse of "keeping things stable" (for their own economies).

Billionaires will just move to other countries but they'll lose probably 90% of their wealth. If they're caught undefended out in the open they probably won't make it. Their assets would be siezed by any territories claimed by democratic (aka "liberal") groups in order to fund the war. Mere millionaires will find their wealth disappear overnight. They'll probably try to pass themselves off as middle class for as long as they can... Moving in with family, forced to abandon their mansions.

The rich that sided with the liberals (e.g. celebrities that are easily identified as liberal) will fair the best amongst the wealthy in democratic strongholds.