Hey, we got one! Also, that you made it past TNG season 1 is a feat in and of itself. But don't fret, the last season, while you'd think they'd have their shit together, includes a couple of it's worst episodes. Soldier through.
Idk, this gets a pass from me. More so before all the new shows came out though, those are easy to love.
The old stuff is difficult to get into though, and there is usually a lot of bad writing, poor production values and terrible acting to get past before it starts getting good.
And sadly a lot of 60's and 90's Trek fans are bigoted old men, which is another mark against the show for anyone with a passing interest who's met a Trekkie of this caliber irl or looked into fan spaces online.
a lot of 60's and 90's Trek fans are bigoted old men
I call bullshit on this. What Trekkies are bigots? I've never met or heard of anyone IRL or online that is a fan of Star Trek who didn't believe most of the tenants of the show, including tolerance and inclusion.
Agreed. While examples where those ideals fall short can be found in every iteration, there is a visible change over time. We're in the middle of a great 3rd resurgence, or "Latinum Age" if you will, and things are looking brighter than ever.
Yeah, I can't see it either. I mean, there are/were Republicans who thought RAtM wasn't about them, so I'm sure there are some old bigoted people who are Trek fans. I can't imagine it being a lot.
If you're a white guy you're unlikely to see or be on the recieving end of bigotry from these types of people.
The trek boards on reddit were vile when Discovery came out, if anyone remembers that? Hundreds of pissed off trek fans adamant that a black woman should not be the main character and hating that there were no men on the bridge. And even before then the asian wife jokes, misogyny and rape jokes about Keiko were a regular occurence.
The show writers making episodes like the Kira porn holonovel also didn't help, Quark should have been kicked off the station for that. It's not very star trek to let sexual harrassment happen so blatently, is it? Oh wait, yeah no it was fine. Slap on the wrists, no big deal. Is it surprising that some viewers of the show took that moral lesson to heart because 'trek is a bastion of good and can do no wrong'? Bashir skulking around begging Dax for a date and monologing about winning his prize, was creepy as fuck too.Trek is so pure though, men who behave like that must be ok because it was in trek! Amirite?
You guys need to keep in mind there's a huge cross over between nerds and incels, and between star trek fans and old white guys who like imagining white guys in charge of exploring space and getting to fuck all the alien women.
Trek nerds can be shit people too. You aren't immune just because the show you like has some morals.