"On September 29th, 2023, we will ship out our final red envelope. It has been an honor to share movie nights with you.
...We sincerely thank you for joining us on this amazing journey of 25 years."
-The Netflix DVD Team
With Netflix discs closing its doors on the 29th, where will you get your DVD's, Blu Rays and UHDs?
This raises a few questions for discussion:
What services do you use?
Whats your experience with any of these services?
What do you do with your physical media?
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I know, I know, yes, its 2023 and people still get physical media. A physical disc can have many advantages over a streaming service, such as:
Control Over Content
Quality
Sound Profiles
Extras
Back Ups
Here is a list of popular Rental and Buy services:
My local library has an awesome collection of VHS, they even started adding some DVDs the last few years. I suspect in a few more they may even have HD-DVD!
My local library is free to use, and they even have Blu-rays alongside DVDs, which is rare in my experience. However, their selection when it comes to Blu-rays pales in comparison to their entire shelves of DVDs, and they seem to favor DVDs. I sometimes donate a few Blu-rays to my library in order to get people to check them out.
Redbox is the cheapest way to legally own movies. Like my library, the Redbox kiosk I go to (and most Redboxes in general) seems to prioritize DVD over Blu-ray, which can be a bit disheartenig. You can rent a Blu-ray at Redbox for $2.99/night, or you can buy it for $4.99.
On eBay you can get some pretty good deals, though the condition of the disc may vary.
Amazon is great if you want to pre-order a DVD/Blu-ray and want it delivered on the same day it releases. But then you have to buy it from Amazon. I don't usually pre-order movies to be delivered to me anymore.
And finally there's Best Buy. If I want a newly-released disc, I'd rather go out of my way to drive all the way to the mall and buy the disc in-person at Best Buy than pre-order it from Amazon. The Best Buy near me is one of the few stores to still have a dedicated space for physical media, so I should feel grateful for that.
What do you do with your physical media?
Before I even put the discs in my player, I put them in my Blu-ray drive and make a backup with MakeMKV. If the keys to remove the DRM aren't available, I'll just torrent the BDMV. After the discs have been backed up, I watch them on my player.
If the keys to remove the DRM aren't available, I'll just torrent the BDMV.
If you have the right model of blu ray drive you could patch the firmware with libredrive so you could decrypt the keys yourself. I set up my LG drive with it in like 10 min.
My local Best Buy actually got rid of the DVD and CD section. That made me realize I needed to get serious about converting my physical media to digital. I'm still building my Plex library.
Yes, I know about Jellyfin and Emby. If I'd heard about them first, I'd probably be using one of them. Plex was the first one I tried, and it works great for me.
Problem was, the tape it was on was from the formats before VHS and Betamax. While the tape existed, no players to play back the tape existed anymore. It took a several year effort to build a new player from scratch. Finally, after all that, they were able to record the show to digital media and now it lives on YouTube for people to see. It's not the funniest material ever produced by either man, but it's definitely a piece of history worth looking at if you've ever enjoyed Monty Python or The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Attempts to digitize things that are currently available on disc but not available in digital file formats/streaming is absolutely a process of maintaining historical documents that would otherwise be lost to time. Building a new DVD or Bluray player from scratch when none exist anymore is a much bigger effort than making a tape video player, because it involves proprietary codecs, compression, and DRM.
So, I let others archive those and have digital versions of content I want. I get the appeal of discs, but I also get appeal of no discs (I'm in the latter camp)
Agree! I've made a sea shift to optical media whenever easily possible. It's such a breath of fresh air. Easy, reliable, high quality, not dependent on 15 servers between me and some hard drive in utah. Love grabbing a disc and knowing I'm gonna watch this and not have any dumb issues now or in 10years if I want to watch it again.
If you haven't touched disc in awhile, I urge you to give it a shot; I doubt you will be disappointed.
I sadly see a lot of doom and gloom on the horizon when it comes to streaming services as a whole. Prices will increase, Ads will become common place and limitations on how and when you view your content (Hardware exclusivity for example).
Additionally, as others mentioned some media will just be lost to the ages. Many movies and shows will likely never come to a streaming service and are lost to time. Kevin Smiths Dogma for example will likely never come to a streaming service.
Archiving and backing up a DVD, Blu Ray or UHD can be very valuable to a user even today. I run a personal JellyFin with over 1000 movie titles. Having instant access to a library like this can not compare to any streaming service in size or quality and it has zero subscription fees.
Crazy, once you do back it up, then the CD becomes irrelevant. That's what I said. CD's being obsolete doesn't mean streaming is the only other option, despite if the circlejerk reads it as that way. Reality and the market is what's proving these as obsolete/
You’re not necessarily wrong, but you are unbearable.
Just because a technology has been eclipsed, it doesn’t mean it no longer has value.
Optical media is really the best choice for data archival. Magnetic media is far more subject to big rot. High quality CDs, DVDs and to a lesser extent Blu-ray Discs can last an order of magnitude longer.
Data redundancy exists, and tape backups is a completely different technology then CDs/DVDs/Blueray/etc, which is what this topic is about. Then I should be an easy block for you.
Because not everyone has gigabit fiber run to their door. Streaming is not always the answer. I have read through all the back and forth here, but this is the point that was lost in the conversation. While it may be obsolete to you, it's still the easiest way to transfer large amounts of data to someone that might not have any internet other than their cell phone service.
TIL nexflix still did disk mailing. I figured it would have been deprecated years ago. I get most of my Blu-rays from Amazon, largely because it's convienient, and I end up with Amazon gift cards from various people pretty often. Beyond that, Anime Blu-rays are pretty scare elsewhere without insane markup and/or shipping. I also sometimes get them at generic stores like best buy or target, when I just want a major release sold basically everywhere. I don't rent them because that would be stupid.
For me, I sail the seven seas. If I didn't, and I was in the position where I could afford to self host, I would buy a bunch of DVDs/CDs/Blu-Rays (or just download films by sailing the seven seas, looking at you, *arr suite), rip the files from the drives and self host a Jellyfin server.