Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police
Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police
Another thing users are "agreeing" by default and have to opt-out?
Opt-out!? Sounds like some woke shit capitalist jesus wouldn't agree on
Nevermind users, at least the can choose to get rid of those, what about random people passing by?
Shocked Pikachu who could have predicted
Every town around me have installed these fucking things, covering every major route. In order to get out of my local area without being tracked I have to drive on some serious hillbilly roads. It's exhausting.
Do you have any hobbies that require that kind of caution?
Is not-liking-being-monitored-by-some-asshole-billionaire-ceo-who-is-selling-all-my-movements-and-habits-to-people-i-know-nothing-about-and-i-have-no-reason-to-trust-their-intentions a hobby?
Its not about what your doing its the fact, it indiscriminately tracks people.
What is fine and legal today could be illegal tomorrow.
Also there are so many examples of abuse and mistakes by flock that they are unredeemable
Anyone know good open source alternatives or I guess no golem source too if need be
I found the Lorex brand of products that stores footage locally. Internet connection is not required either, as it is either hardwired or paired directly with the NVR wirelessly.
Maybe the pinecube from pine64
I use reolink cameras isolated to their own VLAN and strictly controlled. NVR is an Intel NUC with Coral running Frigate. It was the cheapest/best solution for me. Tough to find things that aren't insanely expensive.
unifi
sorry, not open source afaik
Id like to thing Ring users and pontential buyers would drop after the recent outage. Probably wont though.
AWS hosts about 1/3 of all Internet traffic. Most alternatives likely store data on AWS
Unless you do your own system. A NVR and a doorbell camera. Software like Blue Iris can even send notifications by email, telegram, or SMS.
Key point: "Flock users can request that Ring doorbell users share footage to help with “evidence collection and investigative work.”
This is not any kind of live link. It is just another way to request a specific video recording be shared by the user. The user has full control. Ring already has the same system in place on their "neighborhood" platform.
Ring just implemented facial rec that cant be turned off by the user and Amazon is buddies with Palantir. If you really think the user has any choice when police come through for an investigation, youve got another thing coming
... For now.
Because of the implication.
i believe you would have to opt in to share that info with police. im not 100% of course because im only speaking with the limited knowledge i have from videos on Flock, but they do say that each person/town/whatever that joins the network has to manually choose to share the info with the boys. it could just have to be amazon saying 'yes', im not sure, def something to look into
They say that, but I can almost guarantee you the feds get direct access without asking and keep it a secret, because that's how tech companies do things in general. Flock cameras/data is openly used to provide a combined search of all cameras, this partnership implies Ring is going to go further in that direction too.
Yeah they can just say "patriot act" basically
Yea fr though. What if my city/county/state government wants to opt in and I don't want that?
In addition to likely not giving a fuck, in jurisdictions with more sense than the USA, they can get warrants.
A video doorbell sales dude tried giving me one for free. I said "I don't want your company to spy on my neighbors so they can hand it off to the cops without my say-so" and he looked at me like I'm stupid.
Should have said ok and then destroyed it once it's legally your posession