on manosphere and incel culture
on manosphere and incel culture
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I was never a soldier, but what the incel culture tells men sounds pretty much like what the military tells recruits in basic training. The accounts I've read from DIs is that you want to break them down to rebuild them. Take away the family/social structure they grew up in and replace it with the military. The difference is that the military wants them to be proud and adaptable. The Army wants a private who can grow and move up in the ranks; the manosphere wants permanent peons.
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Hmmm you might be polishing the intentions of the military a little bit. The Army wants a private who will follow orders without hesitation or even thought. You break down a person and build them into a tool, a cog in the machine. Yes, some will grow and advance, some will gain valuable skills that promote lifelong achievements, some will rise from a life devoid of options to become contributing citizens. But also, some will become cannon fodder, sent to secure a hill or defend an oilfield or depose a democratically-elected socialist.
But otherwise, yes. Incel culture and basic training have a lot in common with cult indoctrination.
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This is on point!
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The “grain of salt” with YouTube is watching with an awareness that each video seeks to make you the product. Chris Williamson is paid, and well, for those views. Being provocative feeds the algorithm and wins more views, more income. He can’t do it without you. Same with the more incel leaning fellows like Asmongold, who will tell you his income.
Guys with views in that range do this full time. It’s their job. You are their income.
90% of the popular woodworkers are selling you products even as they make you the product. In addition to other crafting channels.
It’s not altruistic. These people are getting paid.
One of the initial promises of capitalism included the alignment of altruism and profit, like providing a good or service to the community that they need and did not otherwise have, and they all pay you enough to live, meanwhile they all do the same with other goods and services, creating a big virtuous cycle.
I know that has largely broken down and been perverted as more and more market segments collapse into monopolies like black holes, but I think you can still see some of that "making money doing something good" spirit out there, even on YouTube. The first YouTuber that came to mind was "Dad, How Do I?" for example. I am pretty sure that guy's getting monetized and he's wholesome as hell.
I know, but chasing an algorithm twists content. People who gained viewership 10 years ago, not so much, but now?
Adam Smith's "invisible hand" - Individuals pursuing their self-interest can lead to mutual benefits for society.