photopea.com now locks out users blocking ads
photopea.com now locks out users blocking ads
photopea.com now locks out users blocking ads
I am totally supporting developers wanting to make money with their product.
But the developer of Photopea has basically built a product for people who want to get rid of Adobe's stupid subscription model and now he tries to force them to pay for his own subscription by breaking the application. That really doesn't sit right with me.
Why would I need to pay 8€/month for image editing features that run in my browser?
It also doesn't help that he went on Github and complained to the developers of uBlock Origin, replying with troll answers like "How can I help you?" but not wanting to accept any other answer than them allowing him to serve ads.
This guy can get rekt, in my humble opinion. I did like the product before this change, though. Does anyone know of similar image editors out there that can batch-crop images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then export them to webp? (GIMP is terrible, sorry 🥹)
GIMP isn't terrible. You're just used to doing things a certain way and GIMP does it differently.
That's true, I was working with Photoshop for many years and it's hard to unlearn that.
Maybe I'll give it another chance.
What's mildly infuriating is that Photopea makes this so easy and now I need to adjust my workflow again. Why do so many devs out there need to enshittify their product after a few years? :(
I don't really understand why you're using ad-supported proprietary software that you've never paid a dime for (or given a dime to, since you use uBO), claiming that you don't use GIMP or Krita instead because the former "is terrible" and the latter isn't meant for cropping (a trivial, fundamental feature of the software), and then acting entitled to use the Photopea author's own personal work with zero compensation. So you have free alternatives (as in beer and as in freedom), refuse to do even the bare minimum to learn how to use them, and then go full "you took my only food; now I'm gonna starve" when Photopea's author stops you from using their own site/web app for free that they run and maintain at their own expense.
If anything, you seem entitled and willfully ignorant, and I say that from the perspective of someone who resents digital advertising and proprietary software.
then acting entitled to use the Photopea author’s own personal work with zero compensation.
Running batch tasks on the Photopea author’s own infrastructure because Photopea is a website. Lichtmetzger wrote in a reply that he's not using Photopea to edit a photo once in a while and now he's bummed out (I would kinda understand that) but that he's actually processing a big number of images on someone else's resources.
If anything, you seem entitled and willfully ignorant
I understand why people might think that. As I've said in another comment, it's the attitude of the developer that mildly infuriates me. I am not against paying money for a good product and I would've even paid the subscription, if 1. it wasn't so high (96€/year for a tool processing images in your own browser) and 2. he wasn't such a dick on Github to people.
I know developers need to put food on the table, but then they should at least be honest about that. Going into the uBlock Github and trolling people there while claiming you “always supported ad blockers” isn’t the right way and I am not financially supporting developers who act like this.
Also, some people don't seem to grasp that I'm not actually processing images for free on the developers' infrastructure. The image processing is done via Javascript on my own machine. So all I'm doing is loading the website initially, it's not like I'm taking money out of the devs' pocket by blocking his ads. Added to that, the site worked fine for many years, why do you need to put an aggressive Adblock detection in now? It's a cat and mouse game against uBlock and he must know he will never win this game.
Of course, it's his own tool and he can do whatever he wants with it, but it's still shitty to do it.
After all, you're right, I've decided to give tools like GIMP another chance. The problem for me is that I used Photoshop for many years (that's what I learned when I was attending art school, blame the system) and moving away to another tool like GIMP is a lot of work, because it works very differently. I learned there are plugins for easing the transition and I'll find another tool.
I’m confused what your issue is with the dev. He seems to have posted because uBO was breaking the site for premium users and then got told “just stop monetizing effectively.” Only one reply (don’t use such an obnoxious way to insert the ad sidebar) was actually helpful, though it was at odds with part of his monetization strategy (pay for Premium to get that extra space).
If uBO devs had said “Sure, give this account premium access and we’ll check it out” and he’d refused, that would be different, but instead they said there was nothing he could do to help them and banned him from participating.
It also doesn’t seem that he’s intentionally breaking the app when uBO is in use. Rather, uBO breaks the app when ads aren’t being served and he is now detecting when this happens and serving a message about the fact.
Does anyone know of similar image editors out there that can batch-crop images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then export them to webp?
Not similar, but Image Magick can crop images from the cli and has webp support.
It also doesn’t seem that he’s intentionally breaking the app when uBO is in use. Rather, uBO breaks the app when ads aren’t being served and he is now detecting when this happens and serving a message about the fact.
I have a bridge to sell you.
He's making it purposely hard to block the ads. The side effect of that is that it's hard to block the ad without breaking the website itself.
I think you're taking heat a little bit unfairly. This is, after all, the MILDLY infuriating community, and it can be a hassle when something stops working for you, even if it's perfectly reasonable for it to happen.
I think you’re taking heat a little bit unfairly.
Most of it seems to come from one user who seems to hate me in particular. :D But it's fun to start a controversial topic once in a while. At least I'm not getting banned for having a different opinion (which would've definitely happened on Reddit).
I’ve always ignored Photopea because it’s completely proprietary and the pricing is predatory. I don’t approve of those models, the same reason I won’t touch Adobe.
I wish Affinity would just release linux versions, but I expect those to get worse now that they are owned by Serif.
I think your best bet is to buckle down, swallow your pride, and learn Gimp. Yeah, it’s a dumpster fire if you come from a Photoshop background because it isn’t trying to copy Photoshop, it wants to be its own thing. But even though it seems counterintuitive due to your years of existing programming, it is quite powerful.
Krita in Linux has been amazing. I've never used Affinity, and I'm far from a pro... But I can do most of what I used to do in Photoshop in Krita fairly naturally. It's way easier to transition to than GIMP ever was.
Even without years of experience, gimp is unintuitive, the affinity suite is so much easier to use
The garbage took itself out. I love how that works.
Gimp 3 is awesome now, and 100% free + no ads. Just sayin
I love GIMP but it got really laggy for me with version 3 and I haven't been able to figure out why. :(
What do you mean "now"? Photopea has always been very aggresive towards adblocks.
What I am hearing is that you don’t feel like my man should receive any monetary support for a slick and convenient web application he invested a ton of time into. Not something I would gripe about online, but you do you.
Nobody wants random crap, trackers, spyware, and other garbage.
If photpea wanted to curate their ads, it might be different. Maybe they could even have an artists gallery or subscription to advertise for their heavy users.
But nobody in their right mind is going to stop blocking the major ad domians. Because that would just be stupid.
That said: I don't even use photopea, they don't have anything I want or need that I can't just install locally anyways, which also is free and guess what No ads.
I am not paying another high subscription (yes, 96€/year is high for some people) for a tool that processes images locally, no.
That attitude has worked out fine in my life so far.
"Something is breaking Photopea" ??? Yeah it's yourselves.
Not sure if this lie is allowed under the EU DSA law.
Never heard of it.
are you sure it's not a specific ublock filter or something? i accessed it in librewolf with the default ublock origin settings and it looked fine.
So many douchebags in this thread.
Guess I won’t be using photopea anymore
I never even understood why he made it purely a web app.
Hol up Photopea's nonfree software?!
nonfree as in with ads and not freedom
Brave + ublock origin + pihole. No issues whatsoever loading/using photopea.
Oh damn, I just used it a couple of days ago. I’ll check later this week if I am still able to use it with uBO.
I fucking hate this app/site/whatever. It's powerful, and has lots of features. But every single time I use it, the way it works is just off enough from Photoshop that I need to Google it, and I'm always pissed at the stupid reason. I hate Photopea.
Works in brave normally.
Krita works well for me
It's nice but I need something simple for cropping images in a certain aspect ratio/resolution and then exporting it to webp. I think Krita isn't the right tool for that.
Edit: Alright, I deserve the downvotes. I didn't mention I need to do this in batch for multiple images.
ImageMagick?
If you have trouble cropping and exporting under Krita, maybe using computers isn't the right thing for you. It's literally a single mouse click on this icon:
Gimp 3 is awesome, free, etc
gimp, pix.