Here's Theo Von, telling JD Vance that in his opinion Israel is committing a genocide, and we're complicit since we're sending them weapons, and asking what's up with that

You don't need to watch JD Vance's response; he doesn't really say anything at all beyond some nonsense, and Theo doesn't return to the topic.

My point in posting this, to the degree that I'm even trying to say something in particular with it, is this: People have this picture of this "conservative-y" comedian grouping as friendly to fascists. They are, in their impact, but it's not because they are okay with those politics. They're just not educated and they are not in an environment that allows or is structured to support reality in politics. Their viewpoint is usually completely fine. They just don't know enough about what's going on to connect that viewpoint into who to support and what policies and people are going to produce what impact. And, of course, the media ecosystem they exist in is so wild and corrupted that it would be hard for them to do anything productive even if they did (they would no longer get on TV if they made the attempt.)

And the result of all that you can kind of see it in this clip: They're both just morons talking to each other. Honestly it is painful. The format defeats what Theo is trying to say. That background and style is okay for a comedy show, not so much for the VP but that's a separate issue, but these "regular Joe" guys now have been elevated to this journalistic status, because their audience is morons too, and they feel way more comfortable watching this moronic format of conversation than they would a press conference or a tough interview. The whole world of objective structure, academia and hard journalism, has left them behind. They don't feel comfortable with it, they feel like it's fake and just a way to lie to them (which... there is a reason for that...). But that also means they can't really have anything to grab onto to make a strong argument that's based on facts instead of a firm tone of voice, or to reject something that's crap, and trust that their audience will recognize the validity.

(Of course JD wouldn't agree to an actual journalism interview of this length or format anyway. The right has figured out how to exploit the moronity of our media and their audience. Theo actually really emphasized, when he had JD Vance on before the election, that he also invited Kamala Harris and Tim Walz to come. Bernie Sanders went on Joe Rogan, and he killed, and some people I know really started to like him because he went on and made sense.)

Anyway, I posted this just because of Theo Von and Bill Burr in the news now, and YouTube just showed me a short of Theo telling JD Vance Israel was committing a genocide, and I was startled enough by that to dig up the full interview, and so here it is.

At the core, it is a problem of education. You cannot make a democracy out of a country full of uneducated people making and existing in education-free systems, and that's what we're trying to do. And it's going horribly which is the only possible outcome. This stuff is a symptom.