Before the pitchforks get handed out we should take a moment to remember that Poland has given more aid to Ukraine as a % of GDP than almost any other country. The only countries who have done more are Latvia and Estonia.
Yeah, it’s obvious this is about the grain (or)deal.
It’s so unnerving of Ukraine to pull this shit tbf, and kinda dumb too since it’s quite obvious that pissing off people who are giving you resources isn’t very smart - to say the least
The grain "ordeal" prhoibits Ukraine from selling its grain. One of the most important exports and remaining bits of the economy. So while Putin is trying to stab them militarily, these countries are trying to hang them economically.
How is it Ukraine pulling shit and what are their alternatives? They can't sell grain to Europe, they can't sell grain overseas because of the Russian blockade.
The polish government does not care for Ukraine. The support was beneficial to harvest the strong (and justified) anti Russian sentiment. Now that things are going into the long run and the elections are up, they fuck Ukraine over so they get the domestic farmers vote and present it as standing up. Standing up to whom? The country already fighting off an invasion and barely getting by?
I bet, when the war is over Poland will demand to get "payed back" by Ukraine with a very high interest rate and try to ensure itself access to key economies and making Ukraine its bitch. Maybe the polish people care, but the polish government is only in for itself. Same goes for Slovakia and Hungary.
If the darker blue is total aid, why is it smaller than the "refugee costs only" bar? Or is the whole bar "total costs" and the darker blue bar is all aid aside from refugee costs?
Poland has been a raging cunt towards their neighbours for over 500 years. Funny to see that they pick right up where they left off after they finally pulled themselves together again.
Poland has been a raging cunt towards their neighbours for over 500 years.
You could replace Poland in that sentence with almost every other European nation (ignoring issues of predecessor nations not having the exact same borders of course).
Yeah, with the difference that everyone else chilled the fuck out by now. With exception of Perfidious Albion and maybe the Swamp Germans. Poland not so much, their drift into ultra nationalistic hate doesn't slow down, it speeds up and gets worse every year. The more money they get, the more of it they use to sabotage the EU.
I’m not one to defend Poland in its current state, or whitewash it’s checkered history especially with regard to how it treated Ukraine, but…
Poland didn’t even exist for 125+ of those 500 years, as it was completely erased off the map by the Hapsburgs, Russians, and Prussians. Its neighbours have always treated Poland as a playground for proxy wars and political intrigue, and both Russians and Germans think of the Polish as yokels or shit disturbers, worthy only of subjugation or exploitation.
In other words, it’s not hard to see why Poland quickly turned into an anxiety-ridden bully. Like an abused kid grown up into a shitty adult.
I'm not talking about 1500-2000, more like 1300-1800. It was only after their neighbours finally ereased it off the map that it became a playground. Remember that Thirty Years War? Fucking hell, the trauma of that can still be detected in the DNA of the people of those regions. But details aside, in general we agree and that it is a problem. I said it earlier and I'll say it again, polish facism is the bigger future threat that's growing in the shadow of Russias current threat.
So after giving all old machines to kyiv and getting them replaced with shiney new weapons they suddenly have nothing to give? Or is that take to simple?
I think it's more a political argumentation with the EU about a grain deal thing where some Ukrainian crops can not be sold in neighboring countries within the EU because they're too cheap and would put eg. Polish farmers out of business.
The deal was supposed to last only a few months but was extended and now Poland wants to at least extend it further if not make it permanent (until situation allows its removal).
I am not knowledgeable, I simply connected the two news stories.
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki on Wednesday said his country would no longer arm Ukraine and will instead focus on its own defense.
His comments were made in response to a question from a reporter on whether Warsaw would continue to support Kyiv despite the disagreement over food exports.
Earlier on Wednesday, Poland said it had summoned Kyiv's ambassador over remarks by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the United Nations General Assembly.
It was the first NATO member to pledge fighter jets to Ukraine in March this year and started to make deliveries in early April.
Tensions between Warsaw and Kyiv have intensified in recent days over Poland's ban on Ukrainian grain imports to protect the interests of its farmers.
However, the European Commission last week said it was ending the import ban, claiming that "the market distortions in the five member states bordering Ukraine have disappeared."
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