Democratic research finds voters prefer populism over ‘Abundance’
Democratic research finds voters prefer populism over ‘Abundance’
www.politico.com
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If your politician can't even pretend to want to burn this disgusting system to the fucking ground, then I can't even pretend to support them 🔥🔥🏴🏴🏴🏴☠️🏴☠️
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The research — which tested populist-based messages versus the cutting-red-tape “Abundance” agenda
Like the article said elsewhere, the two messages are not mutually exclusive. I'm perfectly fine with "cutting-red-tape," where appropriate. By all means. I just don't think that will be the panacea that people like Klein seem to think it will be. Plus, I don't think it's going to be all that easy. Much of the "red-tape" exists for a reason, often to protect the interests and assets of the wealthy. Does Klein think they're just going to let him get rid of, for instance, zoning laws that many land owners believe are protecting their property values? Not likely.
So, yeah, the Democrats have got to do better than their (I believe to be naive and out-of-touch) "Abundance" agenda to win me over. Honestly, it just kind of sounds like a recommitment to neoliberalism, as if the neoliberal paradigm that's been in place for the last fifty years hasn't been neoliberal enough, and that despite the many failures of neoliberalism, we need to double down on it. I mean, if they want me to stop worrying and learn to love neoliberalism, they must, at a minimum acknowledge the ways in which neoliberalism has failed, and the ways in which the neoliberal technocrats have failed. I want to know that they understand that they've gotten some really important stuff wrong, that they're contrite, and that they've learned from their mistakes and that they are wiser now.
I think people like Klein think we should all just do what they tell us because they're the smartest kids in the room, but they've inherited a lot of mistrust. I just don't trust the neoliberal technocrats anymore, and I haven't for a while. If they don't understand why that is, well, that's the problem.
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The problem is they don't care what we think. They think they can just bully us into voting for the lesser of two evils indefinitely as if the Republicans are not going to fix elections. The Democratic Leadership and power Brokers are hopeless.
Without new leadership we are fucked and 2028 might be our last chance before the fix is in tight. And it will have to be a popular aggressive campaign to overcome the fixes they are going to put in already.
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Yeah no shit. It's been borne out by election results for decades that lying and telling people what they want to hear is a winning strategy. On average, Americans don't have any better than an 8th grade reading level. The guy who talks simple is going to be more relatable, and elections are a popularity contest.
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In speech populist phrasing gets people going. Saying, "need to cut down the bureaucracy and red tape" sounds like run of the mill two faced politician talk. Abundance is pretty much trying to use the same language democrats speak with to just a smaller subset that has widespread appeal but it's still real mediocre. Not exciting stuff. Anyone just watch that Richie Torres interview about Israel and Palestine. Pretty much try to not make a single position change, just try to find ways to be the same and snake tongue your way to higher approval. The whole abundance thing is just more of the, "they go low, we go high" of the past decades
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The 'abundance' thing sort of operates on the premise that more wealth will make us all wealthy. This is the wealthiest country on earth, but we are not the highest in standard of living. It is just a rehash of supply-side economics. Just get rid of zoning laws and the wealthy will shower us with houses.
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All the wealthy need, in order to be better stewards of society, is more money. We know it hasn't happened yet...but it will, we promise. They just need a little more, before it all kicks in for the rest of us. Your time will come. Just be patient, and give generously.
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Democratic research on messaging has never gone wrong before.
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These Democrats need focus groups and studies to tell them what they should know already. Instead of making public opinion with a strong campaign they just play to the campaigns started by others.
We need new leadership. No shit, popular politicking is more popular in popular elections.
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Imagine that. Voters don't want trickle-down with a new name.
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Sounds about right. People with MAGA hats told me they liked Bernie because he hated billionaires.
A lot of people are voting reform, we all know they don't know what the Republicans are necessarily.
With the Democrats running as the status quo in this time of the plutocratic stealing of our lunches, this was inevitable with Republicans running as a reform.