Pediatricians Say ‘Carnivore Babies’ Trend May Mean Kids Miss Important Nutrients
Pediatricians Say ‘Carnivore Babies’ Trend May Mean Kids Miss Important Nutrients
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Pediatricians Say 'Carnivore Babies' Trend May Mean Kids Miss Important Nutrients
I thought we weren't doing food wars? I don't try to besmirch your dietary choices. I'm very careful to be respectful... If this is the standard of discourse you want to have, I have a literal mountain of publications.. but I don't think that would be very fun for you
Not all doctors agree with this plant based news perspective. May also means may not. It's a weasel word.
This heavily biased news outlet, says carnivore has been debunked, but then just asserts opinion. Where is the science?
The only two specific concerns they bring up are
Meet the Parents Raising ‘Carnivore Babies,’ Swapping Puréed Fruit for Rib-Eye - Wall Street Journal
Or if you prefer a video
Carnivore Diet for Children and Toddlers [Why the Controversy?] - MD Berry
proceeds to do food wars
It's obvious humans evolved to be omnivores.
It's obvious Ken Berry is making money off of advocating the "carnivore diet" and is inherently not a trustworthy source of information.
It's obvious that no one is advocating for the nutrient poor, fortified foods (except agribusiness) that Ken Berry sets up as a straw man here.
There is actual, scientific documentation of what long-term ketosis does to the human body, because it's been a prescribed treatment for a number of medical conditions for many years. One such study found that among children being treated with a ketogenic diet for pediatric epilepsy there was a significantly higher rate of compromised bone health, stunted growth, hyperlipidemia, and kidney stones.
I'm not advocating a plant-based diet at all, I love meat, eggs, milk, etc. Also, the carnivore diet is crock of shit.
I don't know the study your referring to, I'd like to read it if you recall the name.
There is a big difference between a epileptic diet and nutritional ketosis. Typically the epileptic is prioritizing ketone production over all else (to avoid seizures), but the longer people become fat adapted the lower serum ketones become (the body is just becoming more efficient and not over producing) - so the epileptic kids are usually on a 4:1 fat-protein ratio, which isn't a target people would be doing for nutritional ketosis, and certainly not on carnivore.
I bring this up because there is also ketogenic literature that bone health is improved, growth is improved, and lipids are great (except ldl, which is another fun discussion, but basically LDL isn't a bad thing, only if its damaged).
Kidney stones are new to me, most kidney stones are oxalate based, and on carnivore there is no consumption of oxalates, so thankfully that isn't a risk for this population.
A video from "Dr. Ken Berry - Carnivore Coach", who is also mentioned in the article as having defended "carnivore babies" on Fox News, surely provides the best unbiased opposing view!
Let's look at what he says instead of the research study with 80,000 participants which is cited in the article.
If you prefer a third party analysis, please read the original wsj article linked above.
The research study that wasn't about babies on a carnivore diet, are associational only and can't speak on causation, have weak hazard ratios, and is significantly confounded by carbohydrate consumption (so a totally different metabolic context then carnivore babies)? Or is there a interventional study in the article I missed?
Oh shut up.
Let's try to not be aggressive here, we want to maintain a collaborative community that respects each other.