Went and invited people on 2 subreddits to kbin/lemmy/beehaw.. I got flamed BIG time..
hey! I went on reddit to invite people over here on a subreddit..
And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don't exist here. I got shit over...
Thoughts?
I don't think proselytizing is necessary anymore; we've got enough folks on here now to get a sustainable community going, other people gradually finding their way over here over the next year or two (much as it happened with digg) is much better than a crazy server-destroying / spam-proliferating rush.
Reddit was perfectly enjoyable a decade ago with 10% as many users, we don't need very many of them to be able to offer a worthy reddit replacement to anybody who seeks one. (plus I suspect within 6 months or so we'll have way better apps than reddit does)
Your intentions are good, but to be fair to the reddit crowd, the way your post was written reads a lot like an advertisement. Trying to convince others like this is typically unproductive - people will just go to wherever the content is. It's up to all of us to generate that content and give them a reason to migrate out of their comfort zone.
You should just start up a magazine yourself if you want one to exist, even if you've never moderated before. It's not that big a deal at this early stage and if it grows big enough, you can always hand it off to someone else.
Pirates are more likely to end up on Lemmy, while streamers are more likely to remain on Reddit.
What I am saying is there are people who don't care and will give their money and attention to easy to learn, and easy to consume services.
While the other people refuse to feed into corporate greed, and seek frugal affairs which require a little more time and patience.
Unfornately as I have been witnessing there are so many people who continue to use Reddit, and will always use Reddit. These are the people who probably started using Reddit within the past 5 years, and were unaware of third party apps.
The only Reddit they know is new Reddit, and Reddit through the app. Often these people will happily pay a monthly fee for no ads and premium features.
The long term users are the ones that have seen it through its stages, we remember when the upvotes and downvotes were accurate, and were instantly visible, we remember when there were less rules for posting, less bots, and accurate karma points on posts.
Now it's all rigged, and AI driven.
The people who see through it, and want to get their voice back, and a sense of genuine community are the ones that end up on here.
Anyone who still continues to use Reddit I have less respect for, especially if they are aware of the alternatives.
You’re not alone, I tried to do the same thing in a hardcore/emo band sub and i got lots of hate and a suicide watch automated email from Reddit, what the fuck is wrong with people?
Holy. The people in comments of those posts are completely insufferable. I haven't seen this much concentrated idiocy in one place in a while, and I've been on reddit for close to a decade.
Don't pay attention to these pricks, OP. All the interesting people are leaving reddit even now, and all that's left are the wretches who made that site a terrible place to be even long before the API controversy. It's not worth even trying to invite these people here. They'd only make the fediverse worse with their presence.
It's one thing to invite people, that's good! It's really bad to ask them to do some really heavy lifting for something they barely know anything about though.
I didn’t realize how bad the mobile Reddit site was. The one or two comments I could see were bad enough, but man the whole page was a mess. I couldn’t even look at the last link because it just required the app.
And yet, there is still a guy on reddit that posts patently false rage bait about how linux can't do shit in subs like pcmr, and sometimes their lies even makes it to the frontpage.
It's just how things that are too different, even if better, get treated by some.
People generally are lazy and will want stuff that works, so inertia is a thing.
And asked if someone would be interested to create maintain a magazine/community that don't exist here. I got shit over...
And yes, you will get shit because you're asking people without an investment in the new platform to do work for free. That's not going to happen, regardless of the situation.
What a sad iteration of the Internet we live in. Part of me wants to roll my eyes and call that person a stupid kid. Another part of me knows it actually pays to be vigilant to shit like this, because reddit is absolutely rampant with bots and trolls. Sad that a person can't just spread the word about something they enjoy anymore without there being some mundane - yet still somehow nefarious, ulterior motive behind it.
@XxTriviumxX i'v left automod configured to remove most spam, anything that gets reported more than 5 times, and post a stickied comment onto every post telling people where the mod team has gone. those comments get downvoted to oblivion, and i give absolutely zero fucks whatsoever. my job is done.
just create your communities here in the fediverse. If they get populated, then you will be able to assign mods from your userbase. You're preaching to the un-convertible over there now.
I tried reading the replies to gain context but it just sounds like cryptobro nonsense so i checked out
I'm an older millennial, and I don't understand this trend lately of labeling anything slightly technical as "crypto/techbro" shit. It's like people see the word "server" or "IP address" or some shit and just get triggered by it. WTF? Can someone explain this trend? Back in my youth we didnt mind learning new shit, you HAD to in order to make effective use of your time online. That's how the early Internet was built. By "techie" people.
I mean, I'm not a certified mechanic and have zero interest in working on cars, but I figured out how to change my own timing belt with a youtube tutorial.
Why in the world would anyone want to stay on a site with people like that? Good riddance to that crowd. I understand that some people may be afraid of losing what they have in reddit and lash out at a perceived threat to that, but they just don't realize that they have already lost what made reddit special. It's never going back to what it once was and over time it will diminish further as more and more people get tired of the same low-effort commentary over and over again with fewer and more overworked moderators eventually closing communities because it's just not worth it anymore. It won't happen overnight, but slowly, unless spez decides to go full Elon on the site, which wouldn't surprise me.
Please stop advertising for Kbin. Have you see the history of the people you were talking to? You want them in our mags? You want them to upvote their own content and make Kbin the next reddit shitshow? Stop.
People left reddit and it wasn't just about the 3rd party app thing, it was also about the abysmal quality of the content. Reddit became too big and turned into a fest of attention whores. Keep Kbin at a reasonable size. Then people who matter will find us by themselves.
The loudest aren't the majority. The loudest are often shills, trolls or AI bots. Just post that there's an alternative, leave the link, and walk away. There will be people coming and joining quietly, in my experience.
Ok the person who said "sorry for not understanding something that is only popular with nerds" made me laugh because... Bro you are on reddit. You are using the outdated nerd gathering place to complain about nerds?
I will never in my life understand people that think of intelligence and curiosity as negative traits.
I don't know what those communities are (Is there some kind of "truth" to be discovered about the AVGN? If there is, why should I care?). But I would say that at this point, Reddit has been ad-saturated for the time being with Mastodon, Lemmy, and KBin. You're not getting new reach and instead, you're hitting ad fatigue. Unless you can present Lemmy & KBin differently to what people have seen before, it's best to back off for a bit and work on developing a new campaign.
Instead, trust people to know whether they want to be on Reddit now or not. Some people do, some don't, and some people like to be spread everywhere - Reddit, Lemmy, KBin, Mastodon, etc. Give it some time to rest and don't hit them with the same off-topic stuff. Work to create interesting content on Lemmy or KBin. Then when you have something good that's related, crosspost it to Reddit and see if the Admins don't remove it.